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Just coming to think I'm going to relate
for the speed of the media and. There

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isn't a U.R.L.

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Value the latter it's official
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before we get into it
is that we would have

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a chance to hear as itself to the agenda
and are there any. Any just missed that

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you think we need. Yet and I mean.

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OK thanks very much I said

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a little license with the title of these
things came together out relatively

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quickly here at the end but
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a good into verse presentation on the
recreational options for me and there are

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at our next meeting I didn't have

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a chance to compile the specifics but I
just went to the demographic presentation

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I'm Mr Gallo about the whole county and how
are commies changing and how different

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sectors are are shifting and that's
mostly historic but I think there's

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a lesson there in Salt trying to recapture
those things for the next time they

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certainly are very. Low We have

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a number of speakers who are not involved
in fields that they're presenting on as

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a customer. And we will first have
presentations and then we will break into

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a panel so people can respond to questions
at the beginning but they can also then

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I get more of

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a dialogue going with the.
Political. And in deference to

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a request from

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a committee member I will give preference
to committee members who wish to ask

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questions which is only fitting since
they are. A minute into the service and.

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Mr Klaas Center process got

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a present first and Tim actually gives good
credit for salmon season in this fight

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will be busy so he will all be given distance
vision from just vision in the NOW so

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you can go

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a little longer with your questions for him
at the beginning since he'll be leaving

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there after. We're star crossed trying
to get the arcade visitor center

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and chipper converse Brenda Bishop I
sure would have made perfect that whole

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resented with him since they do

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a lot with the guy three days. Jane
or the last weekend and so we're

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good grand in a some point
because she's really

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a ball of fire but so did without offering
really do I'll introduce Clawson and

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non-serious. Sport fish captain are
excellent so I can test I personally

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do the writing out with him and he knows
where they live you know what they want

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and you will come from around the world
so you out there this year because of the

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opportunities and to expand
a little on that is also

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a very active and humbled area
salt water anglers which is

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a group that tries to maintain fishing
access and rights and best crosses over with

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another harbor district subcommittee. And
it also will actually be touched on in

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our next form which is fisheries and
aqua culture but because there is

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a significant recreational component to
this. Kemp's going to address that part of

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it sell police. And like
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a couple of numbers from California
Department of Fish and Game last year two

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thousand and eight over four million
salt water angling trips for me from

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California ports. Fishing salt water sport

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fishing generated over two billion dollars
in economic activity that includes of

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course boat sales fishing town whole
charters you know motels all the.

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Related stuff supports over twenty
thousand dogs in California so salt water

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angling is

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a fairly substantial. Economic.
Power in California.

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a dozen charter boats here and. Shoulder
co. Eureka and Trinidad there's

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a couple and presents city as something
for pride as well on most the boats are

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what they call six packs like
by boat is where we take

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a maximum of six passengers out of the
time the old days of cattle boat sir Qana

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gone now so it's a little more personal

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a bit an experience for people and I think
most people appreciate that kind of

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thing that you know we can take the time
to stop and watch whales for dolphins and

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you know spend some quality time
on the water. In the last couple

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years I've taken out people from
Belgium Marling China New Zealand.

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Earlier this year I took out

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a fishing club from Austria they had
researched our area on the Internet

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and they specifically came to Humboldt
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they rented a R.V.

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In San Francisco and they were traveling
to Portland and they only made I think two

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other stops on the way to fish and they
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that's you know says

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a lot about our area and the potential that
aria Alice you know that there's there

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are people coming from all
over and of course we get

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a lot of people from all across the United
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comes pacifically Taria fish

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a lot of people come to see the
redwoods do other things and that's

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a nice day excursion for
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a lot of local people that enjoy fishing
and you know they go out on our boats the

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guys that don't know their own boats. And
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up close and it is

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a matter of fact or coming ten day
salmon season I'll be taking out

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a couple of guard charter boat operators
from my house Moon Bay that didn't get

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a salmon season this year and they're just
dying to remember what one looks like.

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All the local charters booked up pretty
quickly after the announcement of our ten

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day season there's a lot of pent up
demand for salmon fishing you know it's

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a pretty important activity here and
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There's I think three or four charter boats
come in from out of the area to fish

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the ten day salmon season here one
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There I stop by and I talked to

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a couple of tackle shop owners today
just to get an idea how they felt their

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business changed because of the
salmon season and. They felt

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that. They probably have fifty
percent increase in sales this month

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over the same period last year with no
salmon season they say and maybe even be

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more substantial Now that's before the
salmon season is started so they think

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they're you know they're going to continue
to get business. I know Harold Woodley

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Island there were over eighty boats on

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a waiting list to get slips so that they
could avoid the rush of the launch racks

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and stuff so that spokes that are
normally more terribly on one there are

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a lot of boats that are going to be launching
at all of the launch ramps I know of

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the city of Eureka and the county have made
some arrangements for extra parking and

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stuff but I think it's going to be
a pretty big deal around here just

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a ten day season it would be

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a lot better for us and everyone
if that was spread out over

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a longer season rather than concentrate
all this effort and stuff at one time you

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know I think it stretches our
infrastructure in. Order ability

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to deal with that many boats in the Bay It
should be an interesting time especially

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if it's for. There. I think that.

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Recreational ocean Anglais out such as

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a lot of potential here or there people
that have lived here for many years know

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that one time it was

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a really big deal or around here and it
with. It missed salmon seasons because the

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because of issues with the Klamath River
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system. Some of that. Activity
has declined somewhat but.

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The demand is still there and I think you
know we can make maybe make better use of

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it and I think we can do that we don't
need really on it large quantities of fish

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we just need. More offer to
needy really you know. We have

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some obstacles for improving. You
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opportunities around here. There are seasons
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We have. A lot of closures around here for
example rock fish from shelters open for

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Brad this year was

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a three month season which means the season
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a four month season which means it's close
eight months out of the year we're only

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allowed to shelter water one hundred
twenty feet. Maximum Depth so

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anything deeper than out in farther out is
closed so basically ninety nine percent

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of us Tara Tauriel Waters is closed to rock
fishing and when the other one percent

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is open it's only open for for four months
here so really you know that there's.

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Much less effort now out there than there
has been in years past say and the

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fishery is really responded to that in
their scientific papers document Yeah we.

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In fact for raw fish we basically catch
our limits every trip if the anglers want

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limits. Frequently take out people who don't
feel the need to fill their bags with

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fish and stuff they want to catch

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a few and move around and look around and
enjoy the whole experience out there and

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stuff which I can really appreciate
but the guys who do want to go out on

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a trip and maybe can't afford a
lot of trips and I want to put

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a few fish in there for us or you know and
then we do that as well but I think in

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the last three years we've. Limited on
every raw fish trip that we've taken so

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there are really pretty darn good shape
out there on course whether it's

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a big constraint we have

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a ten day salmon season the forecast for
Sunday is eleven foot swells of twenty

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five knots of wind which will keep

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a lot of us probably off of
the water and definitely

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a small boat that should be there. You
know we out of the M L P eight coming up

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marine reserves so that one percent area
that we're allowed to fish in now is going

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to be cut down by another probably fifteen
percent or so due to that you know we

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have high hopes that you know some compromises
can be reached with that where. We

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don't lose important fishing grounds
and still be able to protect you know

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resources and stuff. So that.
I was asked to mention

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about some of the things that fishermen
water around here as far as infrastructure

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and that sort of thing goes and I hate to
come asking for stuff or even appear that

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way. We have good launch ramp
facilities around here. We have

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a couple of really nice
merinos So you know there's

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a lot of motels and other tourist oriented.
Infrastructure around here one thing

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that we really don't have and that we really
need or some fish cleaning stations so

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that fishermen when they get to the dock
they can clean their fish and dispose of

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fish waste in the proper manner
rather than you know put it in

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a garbage can and sneak down to the launch
wrap at night and dump it in like some

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guys want to do. You know I think that they
would to dispose of that stuff properly

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if they do how and where
to do it and if there was

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a fill syllabi to handle that out. The
raft that we do have we could use

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a little more floating docks at some of
those county ramp out at the old blimp base

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or seaplane base and some what
you call it. Doesn't have

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a floating dock at all and there's fairly
surgery there it's pretty dicey place to

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launch

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a boat although some guys do launch their.
Raft maintenance has been an issue because

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the two ramps over on this side of the bay
tend to silt and quite regularly and.

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The city of Eureka did

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a pretty good job of cleaning those out
this year but they probably could be

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pointed out and it would
be. Better parking.

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At. Probably the Eureka Marina
facility there there's not

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a lot of parking areas there there's

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a little bit of parking on the street
that's frequently taken up. To probably use

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a little more parking there when the biggest
complaints that I hear from Guy says

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restrooms which because of.
Vandalism problems are

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a lot at night and generally don't are
opened until business hours eight o'clock in

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the morning well that's all the fishing
guys are long gone by then they would have

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liked abuse arise from it they break from

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a little bit before. And
better security which is

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a real problem because all of our long
trips really are on in kind of. I don't

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know how to say hi trance in areas with.
Low visibility areas you know without

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a lot of traffic and stuff like fields
landing and one under the bridge and stuff

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there been

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a lot of break ins and stuff. So that those
are some of the things that. Would help

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make this

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a nicer area for our town fishermen and
for local fishermen as well. I think

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there's

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a lot of potential to increase.
Fishing related tourism here

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. There are are now

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a lot of Internet. Fishing websites and
stuff and information travels real quickly

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if we get into a used to an exit
Fearne example if we get into

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a good to know bite it's about a day and

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a half later and everybody's ready to
go to an efficient and stuff and that's

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people from we get people from all over the
area to call for that sort of stuff so

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I think that you know if
we can provide people

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a good experience here especially this
upcoming ten days and we'll probably see

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a lot of these people come back. You
know that I think that benefits all this

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that's about all. That stuff.

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Good grades you tell us complete point
you're here looks like. You have

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a better ten days sure but what is
your look like what are the economic

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opportunities for you what are the challenges
are you and your cohorts making her

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living or family. Church. If you're

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meeting care by between poor to good.

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It is difficult for because of
the season structure now we have

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a. With no salmon season that basically
pushes us to Alabama rock fish.

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That al but it has a one fish limit so

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a lot of people don't want to go out and
spend you know what is that you know

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fairly expensive trip for

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a lot of people to catch one fish all
day. And then rock fish for months season

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and out of the four months
we probably lose. Month and

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a half to weather and the remaining time
we have to have customers lined up at that

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time which. Doesn't always work out
so doing the weather seasons then

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customers are season basic fishing time
starts basically in May and. Early

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No her actually battle don't ever now
because of some crap trips that we can run.

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And you take out weather and you take
out you know plan availability then we

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probably actually fish for half of that
time. And somebody guys actually like Tom

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up in Canada have you Critias crab at many
this party boat that's why they do both

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probably So you diversify
the thing because there is

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a stair bad bad bad one fish that comes
over the radio could be one hundred forty

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pounds this is like a well class critter
out there right now so it's got a lot of

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a little work and that's

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a lot of people travel halfway around the
world to catch fish that big and they're

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that way not too far. Are you Mark.

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You're

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a group. And how do you read you how you
pull troops to kill your enemies have

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people that hate and you've also
said that. You need more opportunity

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what did you mean by that OK I'll take

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a lesson first but what I meant by more
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if we could stretch a season's
Al you know like I said we have

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a four month crawfish season. If we had six
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pick up

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a little bit more business during that those
periods of time or even Oregon as the

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year around raw fish season with the six
fish limit as opposed to our ten fish

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limit. There is so mix opinions on now
that I think it would be nice to have

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a longer season and the
thing is that if we get

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a little better data people just kind of
what we're trying to do with the M.P.A.

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Oversight committee then we can we can
probably extend this window and not over

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exploit. A stream historical documents in

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a typical salmon season and nine hundred
seventy was February two November why

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don't they and I don't think they shut the
rocks this season in those years and so

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I think we are overly restrictive and it's
on the principle of precaution and that

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is if you don't have any data then you
better show and it's our counter that it's

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better for us to have data so that we
can shepherd the station or take in the

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extraordinary richness of the oceans so.
That's that's kind of an underlying thing

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in the prosperity report it's that if you
want to have stable fisheries if you

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don't want to have

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a sense certainty if you want to get
investment in infrastructure then make the

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seasons more served by getting better
data on fish and while the government's

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reluctant we are just absolutely adamant
that we want to get that data so that we

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can give the surety more extended
opportunity and it's same time achieve

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conservation principles green. Was your
target customer. The area business our

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business who kind of comes in that
actually they it varies quite

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a bit it's usually probably I
would say middle class and. On

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our trips are one hundred fifty dollars
per person and the daily trip is seven

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hundred dollars for the boat so you know
three or four guys want to get together

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and have the whole boat to themselves
they can do that. So it's not real

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inexpensive. A lot of guys have their
own boats which of course is very

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expensive. Bay I would say that most
of people we get there there is

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a large group of people that you know that
they live to go fishing and they like to

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experience different areas and stuff and
they don't mind spending that in the money

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really to your. House Yeah
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now. Do the are there are these are they
were still stay or. They mostly motel

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Yes day or so although

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a fair number of our viewers Casely we get
the choice of sleep in the parking lot

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here in this car you know the ninety or.
So but I would say mostly motel for out

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out of the area I ship or our business
from pretty good with. That spike

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information efficiently and I wanted to
answer peeps other question I was on that.

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On marketing or so I'm

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a member of the. You know Chamber of
Commerce and stuff but I also have

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a website and I do

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a daily fish report so people even if they
don't intend to come and fish with me

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they can look and see how we did yesterday
or the day before last week so they kind

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of get

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a pulse of what's going on and when things
are going real good they get kind of

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jacked up and they want to you know come
in and join in on them so but I think our

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biggest That's been our biggest attraction
is. Our website and I've been featured

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in

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a couple magazine articles and stuff on our
fishing area and on that brings in some

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business. And then other than that word
of mouth you know to tackle shop and he

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also has phenomenally capable partner and
wife with books most of these people and

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sweet talks from on the phone and he's out
there slaying the big ones let's take

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one more just to mention the history you
can move them regardless of your business

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. So far none for me. Just last
year we got the season fishing

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game to open the season earlier for
recreational angling up here it used to open

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the last Saturday before December first
and so frequently the commercial precept

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occur before recreational to go Sept ots
So now we have about three weeks before

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the you know commercial season starts
that's three to four weeks and so in that

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period now people that want to get crab
can go on one of our boat say can go out

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there and actually get the limited crab at

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a pretty reasonable price for an A two hour
boat ride in. And get crab before they

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can buy it in the in the stores
here so you know that's been

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a big big deal for for us really I'm afraid
we're going to have to break off even

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though I love to explore
this topic. Having

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a personal prejudice with regard to
kitchen and so I skate thank you for that

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thanks Jim. Thanks very much. AKA the
harbor district so David Hall our

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Executive Director Well talk about how we
support recreation and Hubble play that

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out it's really odd and more and it overlaps
somewhat with our later speakers water

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Trast stuff like that but did you take it
away to get over that to everybody. To go

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to this is kind of the
mission. You realize he's.

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Going to go through

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a little bit scrape with
history. You know where. To

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go. You know wind to the middle
of the strip the facilities

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generally huddled maybe they're available
for Marine recruiting and give you the

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status is. If. Your authority here

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one handed you guys and it's just it just
to kind of keep this on. You know the

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hardest experience or you go on. Through
Bridger's your shoes only have to meet her

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high water and you would literally
be a coffee cup with her which shows

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a goal. You know to do so no one
bring back to you. Again which is

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that. This is really. The right.

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Project and I want to work on some facility
or something is that we actually own

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the property or has going to lease or some
other kind of business relationship that

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allows us the authority and otherwise
even though we can do things there at the

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throughout the county we can only really
do him if we have some hook to the hook to

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the land otherwise we just end of
supporting things so you see us in

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a supportive role

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a lot for things that are outside of our
jurisdiction but still within the county

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here. Just to refresh your memory so that
jurisdiction that means her high water is

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basically just shoreline it's the blue
line and it's up here the pink one this is

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remarkable

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a major plan that is really what we call
the sphere of influence still it's outside

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of our authority but it was something when
we were doing some planning we want to

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make sure that we we looked at those uses
that were they were there the guides

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documents course the district uses to
get there and the harbors navigation

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codependents to that's where we come
from that was the act they created the

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registry back in one nine
hundred seventy and will be

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a major plan line you were involved with
that some of you still are involved with

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the implementation of the major
plan now that it's been approved in

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a five year strategic plan so that's really
the core of the documents that tell us

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what we're supposed to do in our missions
and we're supposed to balance Harbor

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recreation and conservation we'll focus on
recreation here so recreation in the May

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manager plan there's thirty nine different
policies you can see what the goal of

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that was they're focused on maintaining
indoor increasing recreational

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opportunities and coastal access in home
or back because it's the whole bay major

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play member we can do projects other
places this is just the home will be

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a plan one of our guides
them. In the home will be

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a major plan is the familiar with it you
know there is this land use kind of water

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use designation think that the board adopted
basically the blue area here and there

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are two principal uses of the bay this is
Harbor the kind of the purple area here

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is

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a big conservation there are two combining
designations that we use the Marine recreation

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being one of them and you can barely see
it but it's little red and little red

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pieces that are all around kind of around
the perimeters here that doesn't mean

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that those are the only places the district
has anything to do with recreation it's

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just that in those areas when the plan was
written those are areas that had. More

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or less exclusive use of Marine recreation
in those areas creation of course is

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something that can go throughout the entire
Bay. The two thousand seven to eleven

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strategic plan objectives I won't read
them all except maybe the last one there

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because it makes. Two points for me to
respond to emerging issues which may have

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a significant impact on the environment
environmental protection recreation

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economic opportunity or safety concerns
again this is in our two thousand and seven

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two thousand and eleven strategic plan So
this changes every five years where the

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dist district and the and the public meetings
just similar to this come up with the

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ideas where the district should put its
focus for the next five years this is for

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the five year period we're in right now
the other point I want to make about this

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piece is that the district has had

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a tradition of being reactive to the community
groups just like this one throughout

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its history and come up with ideas that
then the district pursues the district as

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never really been in the been in the
place where it sits in some dark room

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somewhere and comes up with how it's going
to be in that tries to sell it to the

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public it's always the other way around
and that's what this one really has these

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emerging issues or things that actually
come out of what you guys are working on

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through this committee knows will be emerging
issues that the district will run. OK

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so the marriage Marine recreational facilities
around her eyes you know there's an

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end to mentioned you know there is to
have public greenest here and we haven't

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really has two hundred thirty four slips
the cities as hundred thirty four slips

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a little smaller but still critically
important and one of only two there's only

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two private marinas here and they're both
down in King Salmon easy landing in the

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Johnnies marina down there and as you can
see down there there's approximately

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sixty four hundred recreational vessels
that are registered in Hamilton County and

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remember that doesn't count kayaks and
stuff so that's just things that get to

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a state stickers. There is for boat launch
facilities this is for all boats so this

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could be travel craft but but mostly this
this category is for the the trailerable

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boats like Tim was talking about all these
folks that are coming up for. The salmon

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season they're going to heavily use these
areas there's the one hundred small

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bridge to mention there's one and Eureka
Marina fields landing and then there is we

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call it very. In the small one whatever the
old the old blimp base out there is the

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other in this actually picture of fields
landing. There's six official battle craft

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launch areas that are
like that because there's

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a lot of artificial paths grafters pretty
much anywhere you can get to the water

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comfortably you can or not you can put

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a paddle crap in but these
are kind of the ones that

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a lot of cases that the public owns them
and we had we do something to try to keep

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them together so there's

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a new one here with the Allen Marina booked
in Salou way down South Bay the refuge

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runs one arcade

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a marshy course target appear in Eureka
sloop just up and just barely appearing

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slew there Dorothy center in them will be

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a rowing dock which is what
this this doc is here. We had

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a couple of guest docks these are these
are docks that to visit yachts can use

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museum ships we do special events there are
things like this bunny Google gets done

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kids the biggest one it's one is just right
straight across from only Island read

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it over here the other one is it F.

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Street which is on the on the Rico's
boardwalk it's not so big it's really not an

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overnight kind of place
but it serves a guest and

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a guest Doc on which. Wildlife areas and
connections to those gyms going to talk

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about these kind of things these are areas
that we maintain access to bases or

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slews or something that are around
you actually there's quite a quite

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a list of these around
the bay here is actually

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a picture of our Park Street
restoration project I'm talking

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a bit more about the districts and wildlife
areas and their recreational component

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when we get to the district
projects. Which is right now. So we

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really have kind of three areas that I
want to talk about for the harbor district

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works in recreation as far as facilities
go with the Allen Marine Corps and the

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flagship of the districts
in infrastructure as

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a number of different
things here I'll describe

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a little bit of that our wildlife areas and
the shelter cold launching facility we

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also work in support. We cooperate programs
and projects with other agencies and I

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want to describe those

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a little bit too because some of those or
other launch ramps water trails program

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that I know Jennifer you talk about science
Expo things like dance or cover those

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really quickly here will be on really again
has that number of flips they go thirty

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to seventy feet we get

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a company vessels of two hundred
thirty feet. Not very many of them but

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a few of them on the
antis out there we have

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a lot of things going here if you ever
listen to our hold message hold message

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actually you haven't but if you ever have
we got to go through all the neat stuff

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that's out here. We have
the docks of course

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a floating breakwaters restaurant the office
complex which is surrounds us here the

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Coast Guard Corps of Engineers the
ship shop is right here around next to

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a scarcity of parking we have that are
for tenants and on tent use We've your

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storage areas that are out on the. The
north west end of the island out here guy

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act launch I mentioned we have educational
signage along the boardwalk here in the

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market arrow. Mostly related to the fishing
infrastructure in boating in America

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and things like that little dated but still
still pretty appropriate we have three

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recycling stations that are out here for
three basically everything we have to

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waste on recycling stations people change
their own things we have orderly building

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water recovery system out here that's
pretty pretty important that's available

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there is one of those available to
every slip so it's pretty handy.

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And then we have which is storage displays
that are you know where the lighthouse

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we have an old anchor that if you were
here at the Maritime Expo last year that

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it's down there next to the lighthouse the
whistle movie the fisherman's Memorial

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all those kind of things that are LOTS of
stuff for people to do and see as well as

433
00:33:48,33 --> 00:33:53,40
just. Do their. They're
boating It really is kind of

434
00:33:53,41 --> 00:33:55,38
a park like atmosphere and you see

435
00:33:55,39 --> 00:34:01,09
a lot of people come to lunch. You know
just taking walks things like that seems to

436
00:34:01,10 --> 00:34:06,33
be nightly there's the. Lighthouse of
course fisherman's memorial that's actually

437
00:34:06,34 --> 00:34:10,17
Fishman statue the memorial is actually
just on shore right here kind of right

438
00:34:10,18 --> 00:34:16,32
behind where this picture was taken from
so I will list down. The fleet makes that

439
00:34:16,33 --> 00:34:20,22
we have changes over the year and this is
these are going to generalities because

440
00:34:20,23 --> 00:34:23,83
it changes the seasons and things like
that but generally this is kind of what it

441
00:34:23,84 --> 00:34:28,23
looks like in the summertime it's about
sixty percent recreational vessels and

442
00:34:28,24 --> 00:34:32,81
forty percent commercial in the wintertime
it's which is the other way around crab

443
00:34:32,82 --> 00:34:37,87
season coming up we have about forty
percent recreation and sixty percent

444
00:34:38,19 --> 00:34:43,83
commercial. Our tenants generally fall
into these categories here we have and of

445
00:34:43,84 --> 00:34:45,75
course recreational vessels sail boats in

446
00:34:45,76 --> 00:34:49,27
a par boats all these different kind of
things that they're commercial vessels we

447
00:34:49,28 --> 00:34:49,37
have

448
00:34:49,38 --> 00:34:53,93
a bunch of different categories in those.
Commercial fishermen vessels of course

449
00:34:54,06 --> 00:35:00,94
miracle to support fleets
there. Most of it fishing does.

450
00:35:02,68 --> 00:35:08,19
And our pilot boat lives here and we have
Boat Rentals so hocked does instruction

451
00:35:08,20 --> 00:35:12,92
and things like that so that's all here it
would be out in addition to that we have

452
00:35:12,93 --> 00:35:13,15
quite

453
00:35:13,16 --> 00:35:16,93
a hub of government vassals that are out
here you know it's you see some of them

454
00:35:16,94 --> 00:35:17,46
but you don't see

455
00:35:17,47 --> 00:35:19,93
a lot of those out there is of course the
Coast Guard down here this is the home

456
00:35:19,94 --> 00:35:24,39
port for the Barracuda the eighty seven
foot patrol boat that lives out the an F.

457
00:35:24,40 --> 00:35:26,43
Back here each of us use

458
00:35:26,56 --> 00:35:32,82
a Coral Sea Their research vessel of course
is down on earth forty breakwater. See

459
00:35:32,83 --> 00:35:38,40
what else the sheriff is here we keep
our. Our vessels here Fish and Wildlife

460
00:35:38,41 --> 00:35:43,25
Service throughout the year as vessels in
and out of here we have Dr also the Corps

461
00:35:43,26 --> 00:35:45,57
of Engineers does one and
survey work we'll have

462
00:35:45,58 --> 00:35:50,47
a vessel in here and no one will so the
category of little boards as part of our

463
00:35:50,48 --> 00:35:54,26
deal with. Voting waterways in and U.S.

464
00:35:54,27 --> 00:35:59,19
Department of Commerce we were required
to leave have ten percent of the slips

465
00:35:59,20 --> 00:36:01,52
available for people to live
on their boats and so we have

466
00:36:01,53 --> 00:36:05,61
a whole bunch of different feet categories
of rules and everything that would mean

467
00:36:05,62 --> 00:36:10,09
we could have twenty four people out here
living on their boats right now we have

468
00:36:10,10 --> 00:36:16,41
about six. More It rates some of the people
have had questions about this we just

469
00:36:16,45 --> 00:36:20,09
finished our budget process here
not too long ago just kind of

470
00:36:20,10 --> 00:36:24,32
a comparison of where we are versus versus
some of the other marine is that are

471
00:36:24,33 --> 00:36:27,89
under this one standard but day getting
or not you know is there is the city's

472
00:36:27,90 --> 00:36:30,87
Marina Crystal City has a
couple of them in Brookings as

473
00:36:30,88 --> 00:36:34,83
a couple of different Feaster I choose to
this is monthly rates in your early to

474
00:36:34,84 --> 00:36:36,56
react rates most places give

475
00:36:36,57 --> 00:36:42,41
a break for the yearly. Attendance you can
see them but you can see that we're that

476
00:36:42,88 --> 00:36:47,02
we're outside in oil which you know has
really limited facilities here in Fort

477
00:36:47,03 --> 00:36:50,67
Bragg where the lowest in this probably
couple hundred mile stretch of

478
00:36:50,78 --> 00:36:56,21
a stretch of coast range and that's after
two fee increases over the last two years

479
00:36:56,21 --> 00:37:01,56
. District well in various parts treat
outgrew wildlife area Woodley Island

480
00:37:01,57 --> 00:37:03,92
Wildlife area in the King Salmon beach or

481
00:37:03,93 --> 00:37:09,08
a border point. Exactly beach is probably
the one that gets the most use You've

482
00:37:09,32 --> 00:37:12,96
been out there I'm sure you go down and
see the industries as you start seeing

483
00:37:12,97 --> 00:37:18,85
houses the beaches on the other side there
is all are destroyed property. It's kind

484
00:37:18,86 --> 00:37:20,34
of technically a wildlife
areas because it was

485
00:37:20,35 --> 00:37:26,91
a dune restoration project early in its
life but then he had to. Win the Do plants

486
00:37:26,92 --> 00:37:27,35
got to

487
00:37:27,36 --> 00:37:31,21
a certain place and we got the OK from the
agencies we opened that up to what could

488
00:37:31,22 --> 00:37:31,33
be

489
00:37:31,34 --> 00:37:36,01
a major pretty major public access down
that's pretty popular area we spent quite

490
00:37:36,02 --> 00:37:39,99
a bit of time maintaining that gets
fairings down there you know there's trails

491
00:37:40,13 --> 00:37:45,64
nice protected beach access skin border
you're just hanging around down there works

492
00:37:45,65 --> 00:37:51,18
out pretty good. Park Street has some
limited trails on it would be Island. Well

493
00:37:51,19 --> 00:37:56,32
a ferry of the gentle hands and wildlife
areas kind of. North of the starter

494
00:37:56,33 --> 00:38:01,20
redrive here is really not accessible to
the public part of our operating agreement

495
00:38:01,21 --> 00:38:05,36
with fish and game when I got set up was
that we only let in folks for management

496
00:38:05,37 --> 00:38:10,95
purposes or for educational purposes so
it is excessive all but only by with with

497
00:38:10,96 --> 00:38:15,86
somebody from staff to go out there to
set it up with your wildlife area the

498
00:38:15,87 --> 00:38:17,07
district is going to be

499
00:38:17,08 --> 00:38:22,45
a unique situation city Rico owns most
developer respect but it runs out of city

500
00:38:22,46 --> 00:38:27,52
limits about. A few hundred yards before
it actually goes back into shoreline so

501
00:38:27,53 --> 00:38:32,91
that it actually harbor district so we
manage that in conjunction with the cities

502
00:38:33,37 --> 00:38:40,08
where they belong to their. Children
Gobo launch facility and just real

503
00:38:40,09 --> 00:38:43,62
quickly this includes a long trip down
there an access road breakwater in

504
00:38:43,63 --> 00:38:47,27
a fish cleaning station and
we've recently acquired

505
00:38:47,28 --> 00:38:52,08
a. Fairly sizable grant you see there one
point seven million dollars from boating

506
00:38:52,09 --> 00:38:56,83
waterways to rebuild that breakwater that
you see right here here's the break water

507
00:38:56,84 --> 00:39:00,95
the launch ramp area courses in here this
is essentially high tide and you can see

508
00:39:00,96 --> 00:39:04,51
why the breakwater needs to be redone and
this is I mean there's not even Hermes

509
00:39:04,55 --> 00:39:07,59
Well there it's going to break through
the brick wall there so this will be

510
00:39:07,60 --> 00:39:12,56
a project that we're hoping will be in
construction this this year there's this

511
00:39:12,57 --> 00:39:15,80
pipe that runs down here is actually the
end of the fish cleaning station that's

512
00:39:15,81 --> 00:39:20,36
a part of it this road is access road it's
owned by the district you can barely see

513
00:39:20,51 --> 00:39:23,35
a little bit of something that doesn't
look too natural right here although it's

514
00:39:23,36 --> 00:39:27,11
brown and it kind of sort of looks naturally
try to make it look natural that some

515
00:39:27,82 --> 00:39:28,88
bank stabilization

516
00:39:28,89 --> 00:39:33,13
a bluff stabilization the district with
boating waterways money actually did.

517
00:39:34,81 --> 00:39:38,12
Fifteen seventeen years ago or
something like that so it's a it's got

518
00:39:38,13 --> 00:39:41,100
a whole package project this is one of these
that of course is out of humble Bay So

519
00:39:42,01 --> 00:39:47,48
how do we do that well like I said district
the district owns the road in this this

520
00:39:47,49 --> 00:39:52,76
area that's a pier and up to the top of
this area. Out here in the bay is actually

521
00:39:52,77 --> 00:39:58,18
a tightly lease that the district has with
spate lands commission so it said we're

522
00:39:58,19 --> 00:40:02,78
in our second twenty five year Thailand
lease with the state lands commission for

523
00:40:03,27 --> 00:40:06,48
for the Major that facility to this what
if you've been down there familiar with

524
00:40:06,49 --> 00:40:08,71
this is an extremely popular place this is

525
00:40:08,72 --> 00:40:13,72
a lot of people are in shelter kill because
they have access to the ocean is go out

526
00:40:14,14 --> 00:40:20,93
there exactly and I think it's I think it
still is the only open ocean launch ramp

527
00:40:20,94 --> 00:40:25,53
that has had been state. Cooperative
district projects we've got

528
00:40:25,54 --> 00:40:28,78
a few here I just want to touch on some
of the recreational things that we do in

529
00:40:28,79 --> 00:40:35,59
that we work with other agencies. On. You
heard last time the temporary folks we

530
00:40:35,60 --> 00:40:39,36
work with them on the Roundhouse project
out here that's working toward being

531
00:40:39,37 --> 00:40:44,35
a museum complex just that I put in here
for recreation because just did I think

532
00:40:44,36 --> 00:40:49,59
our last meeting was that you guys approved.
And an amendment to the agreement with

533
00:40:49,60 --> 00:40:53,06
timber heritage so they can actually take
folks out there to actually look at this

534
00:40:53,07 --> 00:40:58,19
it's not. Exclusively for storage anymore
they can actually let the public come out

535
00:40:58,20 --> 00:41:03,24
and so so that fits recreation bunch
of other of these these festivals and

536
00:41:03,44 --> 00:41:08,02
educational sort of things to get people
out here. In two thousand and one we

537
00:41:08,03 --> 00:41:09,40
started what we call them will be

538
00:41:09,41 --> 00:41:13,13
a maritime Expo this is the ONLY This is
the only year that we're not doing it I

539
00:41:13,14 --> 00:41:19,48
hope but up till then we've added every
year in September. It's really grown in

540
00:41:19,49 --> 00:41:22,82
popularity we get to three four
thousand people out here on

541
00:41:22,83 --> 00:41:27,20
a Saturday and we mix it with cattle fest
and with the Coast Guard city celebration

542
00:41:27,21 --> 00:41:27,70
it turns into

543
00:41:27,71 --> 00:41:33,20
a right nice you know kind of weekend day
on the bay kind of kind of celebration

544
00:41:33,21 --> 00:41:35,60
work that really get a lot
of people get out get to see

545
00:41:35,61 --> 00:41:39,51
a whole variety of things that I don't think
they're aware of and then turn them on

546
00:41:39,52 --> 00:41:44,35
to some recreational opportunities the thing
that we worked on is the fields lining

547
00:41:44,88 --> 00:41:46,87
launch ramp the district actually owns

548
00:41:46,88 --> 00:41:51,67
a small piece of property that's just north
of the launch ramp. It feels landing

549
00:41:52,55 --> 00:41:54,47
we've we've co-sponsored

550
00:41:54,48 --> 00:41:58,61
a project with the county humble to do
some upgrades to that which you Leslie

551
00:41:58,62 --> 00:42:02,41
include paving our little piece will bill
include paving the whole thing over again

552
00:42:02,42 --> 00:42:07,62
but out right now ours is an unpaved. Fixin
up the whole area down there so it'll

553
00:42:07,63 --> 00:42:12,68
be it'll be even better the county was ready
to go to work on their right probably

554
00:42:12,69 --> 00:42:17,12
right about now but they decided to hold
off on it until the the same season's over

555
00:42:17,13 --> 00:42:20,51
because this is going to be one particular
ramp up right now they didn't want to

556
00:42:20,52 --> 00:42:20,63
have

557
00:42:20,64 --> 00:42:24,10
a bunch of cones and things out there so
the cows got it all spruced up it's ready

558
00:42:24,11 --> 00:42:28,42
to go for the salmon season The other thing
that I don't want to touch on too much

559
00:42:28,69 --> 00:42:32,45
because I know Jim's going to do it but our
water trail access signage saying this

560
00:42:32,46 --> 00:42:35,52
is something that the district
worked with were to the H.S.

561
00:42:35,53 --> 00:42:37,70
You actually have an R.C.A.

562
00:42:37,71 --> 00:42:42,41
Mostly for several years with funding from
the California Coastal Conservancy to

563
00:42:42,42 --> 00:42:47,74
put together water trail network signage
and go through some of the design features

564
00:42:47,75 --> 00:42:50,23
that I'm sure Jim is going
to mention So that's kind of

565
00:42:50,24 --> 00:42:54,91
a. Smattering of what the district
and what we always see when we go.

566
00:42:59,87 --> 00:43:06,64
For day. To day do. It
directly and manage just what

567
00:43:06,65 --> 00:43:11,27
he says designations had been adopted by
the harbor district the biggest portions

568
00:43:11,28 --> 00:43:16,58
were were harboring conservation great
small portions actually designated for

569
00:43:16,59 --> 00:43:22,92
a recreation is there recreation restrictions
on those days is needed designated

570
00:43:22,93 --> 00:43:27,53
portions of the day in is it fair to
say that the entire case available for

571
00:43:27,54 --> 00:43:31,13
recreation that the entire video
is it is a little confusing with

572
00:43:31,14 --> 00:43:33,31
a graphic turn out in the
whole the whole day gives

573
00:43:33,32 --> 00:43:40,26
a bill for three days. And read
things you can barely see or only the

574
00:43:40,27 --> 00:43:44,70
areas that are almost exclusively already
in recreation there on trams and there

575
00:43:44,71 --> 00:43:48,17
are things like this that are already in
some recreational use that probably won't

576
00:43:48,18 --> 00:43:54,39
change but yeah reparations. When that that
happens across the entire. Face of the

577
00:43:54,88 --> 00:43:59,90
U.I. Yeah yeah tell him you want to
be out there yet you see in you had

578
00:43:59,91 --> 00:44:05,83
a class and those where
your. Last couple years.

579
00:44:10,92 --> 00:44:13,80
Back to got a statement I made about
us being kind of reactive sort of

580
00:44:13,81 --> 00:44:17,27
a group I think that's part of exactly what
we're doing here and through the series

581
00:44:17,28 --> 00:44:23,34
of these these workshops is to get the
information that we can then. Go back to the

582
00:44:23,35 --> 00:44:26,78
well and decide if there are some some
things we need to do clearly the things that

583
00:44:27,18 --> 00:44:32,72
the two mentioned about them the launch
ramp improvements are something that's

584
00:44:32,73 --> 00:44:37,46
necessary and of the city of Eureka is
looking at adding an additional ramp in one

585
00:44:37,47 --> 00:44:40,66
of their piece of property.
So we can work out

586
00:44:40,67 --> 00:44:44,61
a deal of those as the as they flow
to the top but but but I guess

587
00:44:44,62 --> 00:44:46,09
a really short answer
is we don't really have

588
00:44:46,10 --> 00:44:53,20
a recreational. Player right now. That

589
00:44:54,17 --> 00:44:58,34
you can make. The.

590
00:45:01,53 --> 00:45:07,63
Kill you know. Something. Or off

591
00:45:08,54 --> 00:45:08,68
to

592
00:45:08,69 --> 00:45:15,68
a facility. Really nasty letters. During
your meeting with the other agencies

593
00:45:15,69 --> 00:45:19,67
to see your read could come forward and
well until you have additional portable

594
00:45:19,68 --> 00:45:25,74
toilets and things like that to call the
they're working on it and they didn't have

595
00:45:25,75 --> 00:45:30,30
the they didn't say they were going to
do it but they certainly heard from the

596
00:45:30,31 --> 00:45:35,13
group that the that was a need.
As dimensional as you know

597
00:45:35,20 --> 00:45:39,48
a lot of you know they can turn out to be
just an incredible mass and in some cases

598
00:45:39,49 --> 00:45:39,70
kind of

599
00:45:39,71 --> 00:45:46,83
a safety issue so we discuss things
about maybe the volunteer police doing

600
00:45:47,21 --> 00:45:50,18
some students down there overnight just
to make sure those things stayed open

601
00:45:50,19 --> 00:45:53,54
because. Tim said you know if they were
open it for the morning could be nice or

602
00:45:53,59 --> 00:45:57,94
even mornings were way too late so if
there was somebody that could watch over

603
00:45:57,95 --> 00:46:03,00
these things if they could temporarily do
something due to staff him up and keep

604
00:46:03,01 --> 00:46:03,94
them clean or in the tent

605
00:46:03,95 --> 00:46:07,83
a season the whole group really encouraged
the city of Eureka to do that so they

606
00:46:07,84 --> 00:46:11,50
took that message back so I got to think
they're in there where I'm in there

607
00:46:11,90 --> 00:46:18,18
they're going to try to work out.
Are I think that was. It if.

608
00:46:19,48 --> 00:46:23,60
I took a quick question just to clarify
it there's actually to them just

609
00:46:23,61 --> 00:46:28,74
a second but first what is your slip
rivals hurt what percentage of the year on

610
00:46:28,75 --> 00:46:29,65
year basis are

611
00:46:29,70 --> 00:46:36,11
a writer who had limited or. Syllables Well
that's an interesting question we spent

612
00:46:36,12 --> 00:46:43,00
a lot of time that this this. That we have.
Twelve thousand already we'll be doing

613
00:46:43,04 --> 00:46:48,70
more in space and. Probably more war
than the bows and it is something that's

614
00:46:48,71 --> 00:46:53,80
really new character is not readable or not
really supposed to be read but we have

615
00:46:53,81 --> 00:46:58,43
always been budget proposals we look at
an eighty percent occupancy just so we

616
00:46:58,44 --> 00:47:01,66
don't I mean we could we could play one
hundred percent occupancy they're going to

617
00:47:01,67 --> 00:47:06,84
be disappointed some years ago we did
bit right toward the end of our budget

618
00:47:06,85 --> 00:47:13,72
session we were we would we would
back into. The analysis of it and we

619
00:47:13,73 --> 00:47:19,88
were in about. One thousand and two percent
of the variety Yeah so let's And then

620
00:47:19,89 --> 00:47:23,54
that's that probably but I think that's
probably pretty typical even though we

621
00:47:23,55 --> 00:47:27,14
budgeted eighty percent that doesn't mean
it doesn't mean we're keeping twenty

622
00:47:27,15 --> 00:47:30,52
percent of the slip open it doesn't mean
we're not running twenty percent of the

623
00:47:30,53 --> 00:47:31,77
snaps it just means that's

624
00:47:31,78 --> 00:47:37,85
a conservative figure for us to do work
financials. Right it's important to me

625
00:47:38,77 --> 00:47:43,67
that it just will carry on as
recreation areas. Because I.

626
00:47:45,83 --> 00:47:52,06
Watch it yes you're going to
be. At it with those. Both

627
00:47:52,97 --> 00:47:59,07
are. Those are are both
constructed by her district or

628
00:47:59,77 --> 00:48:04,83
by or is just that there are just entering
that in that section of my talk I was

629
00:48:04,84 --> 00:48:07,72
just going to do an inventory of everything
that's out there oh yeah there are

630
00:48:07,73 --> 00:48:11,20
actually. Cities as

631
00:48:11,21 --> 00:48:17,65
a. Pretty much for those to. Make
you mine I think you did. The

632
00:48:17,69 --> 00:48:19,51
auction part as

633
00:48:20,51 --> 00:48:27,05
a long time member of Doc's side.
There are millions of bird watchers.

634
00:48:28,15 --> 00:48:35,01
And I I'm. Very pleased to introduce
Jim Interestingly the Audubon bird

635
00:48:35,02 --> 00:48:41,54
watchers are said just do observers and
take said clear notes that they actually

636
00:48:41,55 --> 00:48:46,44
have databases that indicate outward
migrations of their changes over the last

637
00:48:46,45 --> 00:48:52,25
fifty years based just on all of on
volunteers and there's thousands of records

638
00:48:52,26 --> 00:48:57,93
that are trustable that get trustful trend
data over time it's getting better and

639
00:48:57,94 --> 00:49:03,15
they spend money more later say to.
You just might find that it was

640
00:49:03,16 --> 00:49:09,57
a species in an unexpected place here are
some of the best and least known birding

641
00:49:09,58 --> 00:49:13,53
sites around. As in their direction
to an article called birding in

642
00:49:13,54 --> 00:49:20,50
a wasteland in Oregon magazine in April
March two thousand and seven. And in that

643
00:49:20,51 --> 00:49:27,46
article are several. Places where there
are solutions and among them and probably

644
00:49:27,47 --> 00:49:30,43
the biggest articles with Bashir
and leave our kids on the kid

645
00:49:30,44 --> 00:49:37,30
a marsh wildlife sanctuary so folks we're
on the map for burgers big time this is

646
00:49:37,31 --> 00:49:39,69
a place to come we have our kid has got

647
00:49:39,70 --> 00:49:43,95
a good days usually brings in one hundred
fifty to two hundred people from out of

648
00:49:43,96 --> 00:49:50,79
the area. And it's we've got
about two hundred fifty

649
00:49:50,80 --> 00:49:52,38
one species give or take

650
00:49:52,39 --> 00:49:56,80
a few. In and around Humboldt Bay
depending on where you draw the line.

651
00:50:00,07 --> 00:50:06,86
Birding is big business process
Florida site and. The two

652
00:50:06,87 --> 00:50:11,35
thousand six report says that the one
thousand nine hundred three ninety four study

653
00:50:11,36 --> 00:50:17,96
found that burning in the corkscrew swamp
six sure anybody been there. Come on this

654
00:50:17,97 --> 00:50:24,86
is the state of the Big Book Packers No
not quite upset it's in the. Everglades

655
00:50:24,87 --> 00:50:31,02
crate. Eat snails is an endangered
species that lives there it's not

656
00:50:31,03 --> 00:50:37,65
a huge refuge it is quite popular it's
an urban refuge. But that at that

657
00:50:37,91 --> 00:50:43,78
time it contributed nine point four
million to local communities. That's

658
00:50:43,79 --> 00:50:48,73
significant. Oh no I
thank you. For what it's

659
00:50:48,74 --> 00:50:52,41
a great place to you look at alligators
it's just as much fun as the birds if you

660
00:50:52,42 --> 00:50:58,40
have other birds might disagree with me.
So it's in Florida this is the second in

661
00:50:58,41 --> 00:51:05,23
the nation states that have money for
birds number one is California so

662
00:51:05,24 --> 00:51:05,53
we're

663
00:51:05,95 --> 00:51:12,66
a state that's on the map as well. I
ran across the figures that slightly

664
00:51:12,67 --> 00:51:19,64
conflicted with. The figures on
fishing. But I think it's because of

665
00:51:19,68 --> 00:51:26,59
different ways to look at income generated
this is money spent and this is done by

666
00:51:27,05 --> 00:51:27,32
U.S.

667
00:51:27,33 --> 00:51:33,22
Fish and Wildlife Service and in conjunction
with the Census Bureau and this for

668
00:51:33,23 --> 00:51:39,99
two thousand and six and it says
here. Let's go but for nonresidents

669
00:51:40,00 --> 00:51:46,84
because even though the base going to attract
people hurting from within the state

670
00:51:46,85 --> 00:51:49,93
as far as we're concerned
they're nonresident So

671
00:51:50,07 --> 00:51:53,32
a person coming from San Francisco L.A.

672
00:51:53,68 --> 00:51:58,64
The valley. Even other in the state
they say they say they spend here like

673
00:51:58,64 --> 00:52:05,63
a nonresident that is is my
assumption. So compared to what I

674
00:52:05,64 --> 00:52:11,45
think it's not even on the. Chart it's just
so little income spent that it doesn't

675
00:52:11,46 --> 00:52:18,44
matter. For two expenditures on fishing
two hundred fifty six million.

676
00:52:20,06 --> 00:52:25,12
Two hundred five thousand
wildlife watching is.

677
00:52:27,23 --> 00:52:33,33
The next page here. Total expenditures
of five hundred eighty five million

678
00:52:34,59 --> 00:52:39,92
and the average expenditure for days one
hundred forty dollars which. When I think

679
00:52:39,93 --> 00:52:45,14
of God with days and coming here paying
the event astray should and staying

680
00:52:45,15 --> 00:52:51,76
somewhere for two or three days. It
seems kind of low to me but that's that

681
00:52:52,16 --> 00:52:56,06
I'm trying to give you know eighty of
the market here God with days it's

682
00:52:56,07 --> 00:52:57,39
a specially

683
00:52:57,40 --> 00:53:03,30
a three day event. Draws birders from
all the states and foreign countries.

684
00:53:05,40 --> 00:53:10,14
The rest of the time we don't have anything
and the best time for bird watching

685
00:53:10,15 --> 00:53:13,97
here is in the dead of winter when the other
terrorists have done all of the crazy

686
00:53:13,98 --> 00:53:16,84
burgers are out there looking for in

687
00:53:16,85 --> 00:53:20,03
a flock of five hundred thousand sure birds
they're looking for that one short bird

688
00:53:20,04 --> 00:53:25,58
that stands out is a rarity and they're
hugely connected by the Internet so when

689
00:53:25,59 --> 00:53:31,83
a rarity occurs. People just show up I don't
know how they get flight reservations

690
00:53:31,84 --> 00:53:36,10
that fast we had a green check and
people were bonkers over that

691
00:53:36,79 --> 00:53:42,13
a bit north of the net river
a few years ago. So it's

692
00:53:42,14 --> 00:53:48,29
a big deal but you need some things
definitely and that's access

693
00:53:49,36 --> 00:53:55,90
and habitat and right now we're increasing
our habitat you heard about the Eureka

694
00:53:55,91 --> 00:53:59,65
sloop freshwater Creek
restoration we're making

695
00:53:59,66 --> 00:54:05,42
a raft profusion basically for fish
it's going to be birds or to folks.

696
00:54:06,67 --> 00:54:10,66
It's going to be a future for your
birds it's going to be a feeding site

697
00:54:10,83 --> 00:54:13,40
a spray of bald eagles Well we have

698
00:54:13,41 --> 00:54:19,54
a bald eagles cruising on the bay right
now to present site Harden birders

699
00:54:20,00 --> 00:54:26,31
sometimes not think of bald eagles as trash
birds but that new bird or people from

700
00:54:26,32 --> 00:54:31,89
the city that are coming up to look at
wildlife are going to be blown away I'm

701
00:54:31,91 --> 00:54:33,25
still blown away when I see

702
00:54:33,27 --> 00:54:38,99
a bald eagle cruising over fifty feet
over my head it's fairly impressive. I've

703
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:45,96
seen birds in the wildlife area that usually
show up in the valley. So there are

704
00:54:45,97 --> 00:54:52,72
rarities here this big attraction. So
we're getting more have it around the

705
00:54:52,73 --> 00:54:53,56
bay for

706
00:54:53,57 --> 00:54:59,69
a wider variety of birds and we also have
associations with our local out upon

707
00:54:59,70 --> 00:55:04,48
society we probably kept
it one time well over

708
00:55:04,49 --> 00:55:06,55
a thousand person hours

709
00:55:06,59 --> 00:55:13,50
a year in guided field trips. Just
on the base not including the

710
00:55:13,51 --> 00:55:19,75
ones go off to the desert or up in the
mountains. Which brings me to the other

711
00:55:19,76 --> 00:55:26,37
segment of birding is that the
baby is born basic coastal

712
00:55:26,38 --> 00:55:33,22
habitat and the other part of it is the
surrounding area the climate Siskiyou

713
00:55:33,23 --> 00:55:36,89
by omission which is also hot it's

714
00:55:36,90 --> 00:55:42,89
a hot burning here in general.
And linking with those and I'm

715
00:55:43,70 --> 00:55:44,42
right now doing

716
00:55:44,43 --> 00:55:50,00
a project independent study for eco tourism
certificate talking to people in the

717
00:55:50,01 --> 00:55:54,62
area and everybody's charged up but it could
tourists they have their websites and

718
00:55:54,63 --> 00:55:57,11
have their ideas but
there doesn't seem to be

719
00:55:57,12 --> 00:56:01,00
a lot of connecting of the
dots and I think the harbor is

720
00:56:01,01 --> 00:56:04,00
a very important dot that needs to go be

721
00:56:04,01 --> 00:56:10,44
a little bit beyond this jurisdiction here
into its areas of influence and connect

722
00:56:10,45 --> 00:56:13,98
with those other dots think
there's going to be more in

723
00:56:13,99 --> 00:56:20,54
a line of eco tourism here people being
aware of what could happen and I think it's

724
00:56:20,65 --> 00:56:27,10
it's not just coming to look at Bert's
but birders I think are. Tending to be

725
00:56:27,11 --> 00:56:32,59
less of collectors meaning writing them
down on the list and then saying I got that

726
00:56:32,60 --> 00:56:39,22
one but. More interested in citizen
science especially said we've been to

727
00:56:39,23 --> 00:56:42,84
a bird counts for actually one
hundred years recently that's

728
00:56:42,85 --> 00:56:47,76
a thing called the bird it's
it's I've Cornell. And there is

729
00:56:47,77 --> 00:56:54,14
a Clements area the bird that we use
that anybody could see can sign up

730
00:56:55,08 --> 00:56:56,61
go out birding and put them on

731
00:56:56,78 --> 00:57:02,85
a national list database and this contributes
hugely to science you can actually

732
00:57:02,86 --> 00:57:03,57
put in G.P.S.

733
00:57:03,58 --> 00:57:10,61
Court it's getting very high tech
so you can go out and bird say

734
00:57:10,62 --> 00:57:14,68
where you found the bird located on the
map and it shows up it goes back it gets

735
00:57:14,69 --> 00:57:17,04
better if you saw

736
00:57:17,04 --> 00:57:23,67
a. Mexican hooker well. On the mudflats

737
00:57:24,37 --> 00:57:31,36
you can call it in someone to look
at that and go right. When you

738
00:57:31,37 --> 00:57:35,45
go in to look at the database it'll still
be there but no one else will see it. So

739
00:57:35,46 --> 00:57:36,06
that it's

740
00:57:36,07 --> 00:57:42,80
a controlled database that's
bedded by experts and it helps to

741
00:57:42,81 --> 00:57:48,58
build that veracity that people
go on the one percent do not

742
00:57:48,59 --> 00:57:55,14
a bird and they can see what's out there
so I would say that you need to consider

743
00:57:55,15 --> 00:58:01,69
birders very seriously because largely
there. They're boomers but we have

744
00:58:01,79 --> 00:58:07,57
younger groups coming up they're very
interested usually fairly affluent and they

745
00:58:07,58 --> 00:58:10,08
need a place to stay they need

746
00:58:10,13 --> 00:58:16,96
a way to get to the birds and habitats
for the birds so. That's my spiel.

747
00:58:21,28 --> 00:58:27,26
All right great many of the folks who
come or at least some of the. European or

748
00:58:27,27 --> 00:58:33,84
from around the world or is this really
is the world watching phenomena more but

749
00:58:33,85 --> 00:58:40,85
the best of. Its domestic and I say it's
probably starts level and it tapers off

750
00:58:41,27 --> 00:58:46,16
worldwide we have people from
Japan over the world but not

751
00:58:46,17 --> 00:58:51,11
a lot but out of this is something that's
been out in our culture but no they

752
00:58:51,12 --> 00:58:57,40
aren't as passionate in fact. The person
that invented digiscoping for Bertie.

753
00:58:59,33 --> 00:59:05,84
Is from Malaysia. So there are bird watchers
over the world it's not just to look

754
00:59:05,88 --> 00:59:06,00
for

755
00:59:06,01 --> 00:59:11,25
a moment it's just that it is we've got to
draw them in from further away that's that's

756
00:59:11,26 --> 00:59:15,25
why I said we've got to
stretch our stuff and we have

757
00:59:15,26 --> 00:59:22,19
a lot of stuff and the other aspect of
this is that the seasonality here. We

758
00:59:22,21 --> 00:59:23,19
get a I think it misses

759
00:59:23,21 --> 00:59:29,04
a four we get me think of summer as our
tourist season when in fact some around the

760
00:59:29,05 --> 00:59:35,05
bay as far as birds go you know why bother
You can go anywhere around away from the

761
00:59:35,06 --> 00:59:39,15
bay and see some birds up and birds but
you know we're going to see much from

762
00:59:39,16 --> 00:59:45,30
a short birds but when you have birds
here in the fall winter and spring. Seems

763
00:59:45,31 --> 00:59:51,46
like that's the potential to keep that
thing tourist instead of going off and I

764
00:59:51,47 --> 00:59:56,95
just want to tell you. I have from it's
kind of ten years and I would say twenty to

765
00:59:56,96 --> 01:00:02,26
thirty thousand dollars of our annual income
is burgers coming to the area there's

766
01:00:02,27 --> 01:00:04,89
really no better way to go and
see birds quietly than buy

767
01:00:04,90 --> 01:00:08,32
a kayak and I have to disagree
that you know the summertime is

768
01:00:08,33 --> 01:00:12,69
a great time to get attention birds because
I mentioned bald eagle on the phone and

769
01:00:12,69 --> 01:00:19,38
. Sign here because they're not the
sophisticated birders but we do the birdie

770
01:00:19,96 --> 01:00:24,19
and everybody that comes to humbugs we get
they get the bird list we can check it

771
01:00:24,20 --> 01:00:24,52
off and

772
01:00:24,53 --> 01:00:28,93
a lot of you are new to it we've never
heard of before we still expose them to

773
01:00:29,08 --> 01:00:30,77
birding and people really get

774
01:00:30,78 --> 01:00:33,58
a kick out of that and they want to come
back the next year just to see if that

775
01:00:33,59 --> 01:00:39,85
same bird is there everything we've had
two three times participants on our tours

776
01:00:39,86 --> 01:00:45,89
coming just to check on the birds they see
little kids or older folks and having

777
01:00:45,90 --> 01:00:50,25
the access sites so they can get out and
see all these really makes it possible

778
01:00:50,26 --> 01:00:54,72
into the Hope and slew we do have a lot
of shorebirds throughout the year we do

779
01:00:54,73 --> 01:00:58,71
a lot of tourism to turn in that bay to
see the birds that are out on the rocks

780
01:00:58,72 --> 01:01:02,38
that you can really only get to if you get
out there and see them of course birds

781
01:01:02,39 --> 01:01:06,06
have high powered scopes and there's really
nothing better than just taking back in

782
01:01:06,07 --> 01:01:11,12
your kayak and watching that the bird walking
along the shore and others along the

783
01:01:11,13 --> 01:01:16,55
curve of the garden whip over that's. The
kingfisher and really people going to

784
01:01:16,56 --> 01:01:20,98
take out of it and they it's all known in
this area because there are birds. And

785
01:01:20,99 --> 01:01:27,11
then I did and. If you.
Say the best they could.

786
01:01:28,77 --> 01:01:35,57
Just sort of Larry. Grateful Yeah
marketing What are you doing. Sounds

787
01:01:35,58 --> 01:01:41,97
fabulous. No impact on the environment.
They've got money to spend how are we

788
01:01:41,98 --> 01:01:47,53
getting here and what can we do to get more
American on that. Front and look at it

789
01:01:47,64 --> 01:01:52,93
and looking eco tourism in the whole
region. And I thought you know like I said

790
01:01:52,94 --> 01:01:57,55
I've seen people so interested that they
haven't really got the time I had one

791
01:01:57,56 --> 01:02:00,93
operator but I don't any one really have
to give me complete tour I'm talking about

792
01:02:01,50 --> 01:02:06,79
eco tourism. And he said.
So when you going to start.

793
01:02:08,53 --> 01:02:14,60
So people are eager to start but it doesn't
seem to be that. And I've looked at our

794
01:02:14,61 --> 01:02:19,94
own Visitors Bureau and we have we've
had conference is in discussions and.

795
01:02:21,99 --> 01:02:27,82
It needs to go to the next phase of the
new do it or we're going to try to get

796
01:02:27,83 --> 01:02:34,43
there are those you meet in school
or your back are better. Or

797
01:02:35,07 --> 01:02:38,67
worse. Is. Following up with

798
01:02:38,68 --> 01:02:42,71
a little bit with David so does the M
twenty Smithers was here for the whole kind

799
01:02:42,72 --> 01:02:46,88
of convention and visitors bureau and was
really talking about how you know we

800
01:02:46,89 --> 01:02:51,13
market ourselves to the outside world where
people come in here and I sort of look

801
01:02:51,14 --> 01:02:55,16
at this and you know the bay wasn't one of
the things that we the market you know I

802
01:02:55,17 --> 01:03:01,38
mean as far as this goes for the kayak some
official told us other journalists. You

803
01:03:01,39 --> 01:03:04,52
know but we don't really it doesn't seem
like the market sort of the secondary

804
01:03:04,53 --> 01:03:07,32
things as much I mean the red ones that's
where they come you know that's what it

805
01:03:07,33 --> 01:03:11,00
is but there's also all these secondary
things and it seems like you need

806
01:03:11,13 --> 01:03:17,03
a better job regionally American easily
secondary tourism features but then what

807
01:03:17,04 --> 01:03:21,22
you are saying is you have to get access
to these areas soon or if you get the

808
01:03:21,23 --> 01:03:25,58
burgers or you have to have the access and
you know one of the trends that they can

809
01:03:25,59 --> 01:03:26,22
sort of seen

810
01:03:26,23 --> 01:03:29,86
a little bit and they touched on this but
the life area here that you can't go in

811
01:03:30,55 --> 01:03:35,12
you know you so you acquire some of these
properties and some of the agencies and

812
01:03:35,13 --> 01:03:38,48
they put restrictions and they say nobody
can go in there this is for the birds

813
01:03:38,61 --> 01:03:44,30
can't go in and so then which is good
but I mean there are some some kinds of

814
01:03:44,34 --> 01:03:48,95
accessories that you may have to get into
but your thought process on that and how

815
01:03:48,96 --> 01:03:53,15
can we kind of encourage with guided walks
or other kinds of things to be able to

816
01:03:53,16 --> 01:03:57,77
get people access into some of these areas
you know so as we're restoring them

817
01:03:57,78 --> 01:04:04,22
we're not just closing them off already
and it's three with the non-profits

818
01:04:04,98 --> 01:04:10,90
Native Plant Society Sierra Club Audubon
Society we've got the elections and we go

819
01:04:10,91 --> 01:04:15,42
on those tours we get the permit. Confirm
coefficient game or whoever takes to do

820
01:04:15,43 --> 01:04:21,76
special to that and that's the hook up
there that this is great we publish our

821
01:04:21,77 --> 01:04:28,52
schedule of field trips. And we like
to report back to National we're doing

822
01:04:29,48 --> 01:04:36,36
a whole lot of good stuff. We are amazing
compared to other chapters major cities

823
01:04:36,37 --> 01:04:41,82
we compared with Bay Bay Area chapters as
far as your field trips go but you know

824
01:04:42,16 --> 01:04:46,65
never toadies Fishback some Just give me
something else and I can provide it if

825
01:04:46,66 --> 01:04:50,28
you're going to call this the Tonys
attention because I think that isn't this

826
01:04:50,29 --> 01:04:50,61
a lot of

827
01:04:51,16 --> 01:04:55,85
a lot of people that are passionate like
you want to contribute something I thought

828
01:04:55,86 --> 01:05:00,86
my question was to join the speech you
get the last question here. I need to.

829
01:05:02,73 --> 01:05:08,14
Correct. That for. Sure.

830
01:05:10,11 --> 01:05:16,41
They have. Tried marketing
Bertie and trade marketing

831
01:05:17,20 --> 01:05:24,19
will watching number of ways to do
it with their websites. Crossly and

832
01:05:24,53 --> 01:05:30,90
we've used keywords Google type
things. No matter what we do.

833
01:05:31,92 --> 01:05:38,51
There is one team to read but.
It is by far the biggest hit

834
01:05:39,28 --> 01:05:45,04
and the market for our members and if
there is members that want to run with

835
01:05:45,18 --> 01:05:52,12
something to work with so it isn't
that we haven't tried. It we haven't

836
01:05:52,13 --> 01:05:58,37
had. All sides equal we should come
to the table the people that want to

837
01:05:58,62 --> 01:06:03,07
harvest the clientele and with the with

838
01:06:03,08 --> 01:06:08,60
a cohesive wherewithal to do that but we
will do that and we have tried to do it

839
01:06:08,61 --> 01:06:13,42
just has not been very in fact what it
is that it's kind of are supposed to and

840
01:06:13,43 --> 01:06:18,88
it's you know just talking about the fact
that the wildlife refuges of expanded and

841
01:06:19,52 --> 01:06:23,83
you know certainly how both the infrastructure
that we're adding an additional

842
01:06:23,84 --> 01:06:28,94
programs down the water trail so it's
increasingly there to print out because we've

843
01:06:28,95 --> 01:06:32,85
essentially got the infrastructure. To
where it's mature and if you just send

844
01:06:32,86 --> 01:06:35,75
somebody out to but you know that's

845
01:06:35,76 --> 01:06:40,58
a different deal so I think you know
it's kind of we're moving in the right

846
01:06:40,59 --> 01:06:41,42
direction and there is

847
01:06:41,43 --> 01:06:46,60
a synergy the more you develop better then
the more legitimate it is to promote and

848
01:06:46,64 --> 01:06:46,96
it gets

849
01:06:46,97 --> 01:06:51,40
a good experience so they come back and
I want to really look at one more last

850
01:06:51,41 --> 01:06:57,100
question and spread gem that doesn't
really Wildlife Refuge and so they sort of

851
01:06:58,45 --> 01:07:01,92
draw to the area. As

852
01:07:01,93 --> 01:07:08,79
a connectivity to other.
People. Other destinations to

853
01:07:08,80 --> 01:07:13,30
kill them they sort of. A more important
role are they pretty much doing what they

854
01:07:13,31 --> 01:07:19,69
can. They're fairly focused and they're
in their mission. So they're part of the

855
01:07:19,70 --> 01:07:26,18
picture is I see it part of the drop
that you know and I'm thinking of

856
01:07:26,19 --> 01:07:32,90
a. Nature tourism website that has. At

857
01:07:32,91 --> 01:07:36,34
least indorsed things to do there's

858
01:07:36,35 --> 01:07:41,29
a lot of green washing going on that needs
to be avoided this stuff is eco this and

859
01:07:41,30 --> 01:07:43,90
green that this is. Just

860
01:07:43,91 --> 01:07:49,39
a tour but there are also some legitimate
things and obviously National Wildlife

861
01:07:49,40 --> 01:07:55,35
Refuge is is on the list.
The state wildlife

862
01:07:56,30 --> 01:08:01,71
management areas when they're open and when
you can see around the best. Road would

863
01:08:01,88 --> 01:08:07,65
these you know want society field trips
that type of thing so it's I see it as.

864
01:08:08,93 --> 01:08:14,32
They can't really market other. Certain
things you know I'll tell you what I

865
01:08:14,33 --> 01:08:16,13
thought of and that is if you had

866
01:08:16,14 --> 01:08:19,25
a kiosk there they have these things
in British Columbia when you get off

867
01:08:19,26 --> 01:08:24,26
a ferry boat in Vancouver or
Victoria you can book a boat or

868
01:08:24,27 --> 01:08:28,60
a bike or bed and breakfast anywhere
around then drive from the kiosk with

869
01:08:28,69 --> 01:08:33,75
beautiful little magic pictures to take
charge. We should have those have to call

870
01:08:33,76 --> 01:08:37,77
the rest area high five to harvest some of
those people and get them going away as

871
01:08:37,78 --> 01:08:40,93
we should have them if the Chamber
of Commerce is and we should have

872
01:08:40,94 --> 01:08:46,55
a high tourist draw places where gosh
honey we can see the boats better if we

873
01:08:46,56 --> 01:08:50,73
rented a kayak and they put that
charge card in there he's got

874
01:08:50,74 --> 01:08:55,72
a sale and they just show up and get the
boat and I think you know for us to really

875
01:08:56,31 --> 01:09:00,45
get the tourist business in next in my
eyes that we could take just as far as

876
01:09:00,46 --> 01:09:04,19
expanding bed and breakfasts and all kinds
of things because if you want to do

877
01:09:04,20 --> 01:09:07,76
a bed and breakfast and you sit out on
Highway ninety six you could start wait for

878
01:09:07,77 --> 01:09:12,30
customers so we've got to figure out how
to feed and I think you're on to something

879
01:09:12,31 --> 01:09:13,16
here I mean there is

880
01:09:13,17 --> 01:09:17,51
a lot of traffic that we're not harvesting
at these various or points but this is

881
01:09:17,52 --> 01:09:19,00
kind of not exactly

882
01:09:19,05 --> 01:09:24,09
a related but it's I think it's got some
potential for work five and breakfast that

883
01:09:24,71 --> 01:09:28,47
will say hey you want to go see birds
in the open this will all come back and

884
01:09:28,48 --> 01:09:33,91
restart the packets for free you know their
breakfast and take them to the home and

885
01:09:34,22 --> 01:09:37,55
because River has the best way to get in
there and see the birds it's really the

886
01:09:37,56 --> 01:09:42,10
only way to get in or see the birds by and
Tommy Smith This must be lying because

887
01:09:42,14 --> 01:09:48,51
Mike informs me that subset magazine on
the newsstands today is about home. It's

888
01:09:48,52 --> 01:09:53,26
featured humble bass featured in Sunset
magazine they're in there you know well

889
01:09:53,36 --> 01:09:57,41
during them aside wrong OK. But.

890
01:10:00,95 --> 01:10:07,67
I personally. Have I'm tempted.
Jennifer Savage we have to

891
01:10:07,68 --> 01:10:13,73
Jennifer sooner. Jennifer is the head
of local Surfrider she works for

892
01:10:14,66 --> 01:10:19,21
the Ocean Conservancy doubt too she saw
she'd been extinguished reporter on our

893
01:10:19,22 --> 01:10:24,76
local papers and this evening despite the
fact that it's windsurfing she's not to

894
01:10:24,77 --> 01:10:30,87
talk about that she's going to talk about
surfing surfing the tourism and searching

895
01:10:31,59 --> 01:10:38,15
for infrastructure like if
they were. Great and. That.

896
01:10:41,91 --> 01:10:46,04
Well and there's not as
much geographically as

897
01:10:46,05 --> 01:10:50,41
a person might think but I will mention
came in to see you know is known for as

898
01:10:50,42 --> 01:10:57,28
a world class wind sort of the spot. I
don't know though how much attention

899
01:10:57,29 --> 01:11:00,76
people would want to put it there which is
sort of the weird thing about surfing to

900
01:11:00,77 --> 01:11:05,21
you is even one imagines that people they
would be here talking about it they're

901
01:11:05,22 --> 01:11:08,74
going to go well what are you going to say
you know not very wary but I mean you

902
01:11:08,75 --> 01:11:15,51
know my value and I'm good. But
judging by the support that we've

903
01:11:15,52 --> 01:11:19,49
received it is as the humble chapter of the
sort of writer foundation since we got

904
01:11:19,50 --> 01:11:22,05
it going again last year I was

905
01:11:22,06 --> 01:11:27,17
a people are definitely behind Surfrider
trying to improve things in many ways and

906
01:11:27,18 --> 01:11:27,58
we've had

907
01:11:27,59 --> 01:11:32,10
a lot of support and so it's exciting to
be there and talk about them for their

908
01:11:32,11 --> 01:11:36,48
collaboration and things like that this
is my very first powerpoint presentation

909
01:11:36,49 --> 01:11:41,89
ever so I'm a little nervous
and gradually. Leaks in such

910
01:11:41,90 --> 01:11:46,80
a beautiful story I couldn't serve today
because I did this and good stuff but

911
01:11:46,84 --> 01:11:53,42
nothing. Is So despite
this area being cold

912
01:11:53,43 --> 01:12:00,07
and. Oh thanks cold and Sharky and
all of that sort of thing and

913
01:12:00,08 --> 01:12:05,60
despite people's. Desire to pretend that
things are secret since the advent of the

914
01:12:05,61 --> 01:12:11,56
Internet I mean things really are
not at this point and. This man up.

915
01:12:13,36 --> 01:12:17,02
To this over here on the left actually
appeared in National Geographic

916
01:12:17,03 --> 01:12:22,43
a couple of years ago Surf Life has the
California surf guide surfing magazine has

917
01:12:22,44 --> 01:12:26,54
that guide to the northern and central
California surf spots you can read about.

918
01:12:27,57 --> 01:12:30,44
Arcade is G.I.S. Guy cranking out hit by

919
01:12:30,45 --> 01:12:36,87
a great white shark couple years ago mentioned
in there. And then want to surf dot

920
01:12:36,88 --> 01:12:40,00
com Those are two of the very popular
websites that people research when they're

921
01:12:40,01 --> 01:12:44,96
making sort of travel plans and they do
say you know it's cold it's Sharky the

922
01:12:44,97 --> 01:12:47,03
locals can be kind of
scary but they also have

923
01:12:47,04 --> 01:12:53,73
a lot of positive reinforcement
in there too. And so there's

924
01:12:53,74 --> 01:12:54,44
definitely

925
01:12:54,48 --> 01:12:59,74
a lot of information out there that
encourages people to come here and serve and

926
01:12:59,75 --> 01:13:04,96
wilderness surfing in itself is really
appealing to people who live C.D.'s out in

927
01:13:04,97 --> 01:13:11,71
California who are used to huge crowds and
you know polluted water and the whole

928
01:13:11,72 --> 01:13:17,42
city the thing they love coming up here and
into this relatively pristine water in

929
01:13:17,43 --> 01:13:23,11
the trees you know it's just it's the whole
thing so it's very appealing. The bane

930
01:13:23,12 --> 01:13:30,03
of our existence for surfers that it
is that nonetheless they love to.

931
01:13:31,54 --> 01:13:33,11
They highlight surfing it's

932
01:13:33,12 --> 01:13:38,76
a big draw for ages you students like many
things outdoors people because not only

933
01:13:38,77 --> 01:13:43,76
do they want to grieve but often are
interested in hiking surfing all the different

934
01:13:43,77 --> 01:13:47,31
things like that for years they have
been offering these sort of classes and

935
01:13:47,32 --> 01:13:51,95
they're only getting more
popular. There is to

936
01:13:51,96 --> 01:13:56,78
a surf camp site run during the summer.
Manston beaches Humboldt ocean Avengers

937
01:13:56,79 --> 01:14:02,34
which is actually just finishing up its
tenth year of the only Beach their campus

938
01:14:02,35 --> 01:14:04,54
been going on for several years as well

939
01:14:05,33 --> 01:14:10,44
a search for peace contests that it will
be celebrating its sixth year October

940
01:14:10,45 --> 01:14:15,21
tenth that happens I've attended State Beach
so and you know come from all over the

941
01:14:15,22 --> 01:14:19,62
coast for the surf contest even though it
is lucky if it's very fun and people come

942
01:14:19,63 --> 01:14:22,78
down from Oregon and Washington
they come up from the Bay Area it's

943
01:14:22,79 --> 01:14:29,65
a really good time. California businessman
it says that surfing is still very

944
01:14:29,66 --> 01:14:34,05
much an twined it's maturity into
sophisticated subs that sector of the sports

945
01:14:34,06 --> 01:14:39,88
industry that continues to see significant
growth. But I've been surfing here for

946
01:14:39,89 --> 01:14:45,73
about ten years when I first started surfing
if they were. Fifteen or twenty people

947
01:14:46,14 --> 01:14:49,37
in the same time that
seemed like a big crowd now

948
01:14:49,38 --> 01:14:53,54
a camel rockets landing usual to see sixty
people in the water you can't even park

949
01:14:53,55 --> 01:14:55,17
it anymore it's really X.

950
01:14:55,18 --> 01:14:59,57
It's kind of horrible with the parking
situation but it's it's sort of

951
01:14:59,58 --> 01:15:06,29
a relief now if there's only fifteen or
twenty people out there. Surfing drugs all

952
01:15:06,30 --> 01:15:12,62
kinds of people I mean it's the people of
all ages people from all over people with

953
01:15:12,63 --> 01:15:16,34
their vastly different backgrounds
it's definitely not like

954
01:15:16,35 --> 01:15:19,29
a one size fits all crowd
in there is there's such

955
01:15:19,30 --> 01:15:22,49
a diversity among people
that surf around here and

956
01:15:22,50 --> 01:15:26,40
a lot of the people that surf also do these
other sports and different things like

957
01:15:26,41 --> 01:15:28,64
I was saying people bike and surf

958
01:15:28,65 --> 01:15:34,46
a lot of people come up to. You know the
to do climbing all of these magazines

959
01:15:34,47 --> 01:15:39,22
featured humble in some way in
conjunction with these other activities.

960
01:15:42,33 --> 01:15:48,41
So search rider. Has been
around in Humboldt scents

961
01:15:48,45 --> 01:15:55,44
the. Since eighty nine and so it's been
about twenty years but the chapter. Went

962
01:15:55,45 --> 01:15:56,14
defunct for

963
01:15:56,15 --> 01:16:02,70
a while due to inactivity and I wasn't
part of it then I can't really speak to

964
01:16:02,71 --> 01:16:07,40
exactly why that happened but last year
myself and some other people who were

965
01:16:07,41 --> 01:16:14,39
interested got it going again and it's been
really successful it just continued it

966
01:16:14,40 --> 01:16:19,30
continually amazes me how much support there
is out in the community every time we

967
01:16:19,31 --> 01:16:23,58
have an event people turn out we've had
events that are key to theater hundreds of

968
01:16:23,59 --> 01:16:28,18
people have come out to is just been really
great so that is enabled us to start

969
01:16:28,23 --> 01:16:34,93
a number of projects. So these
areas. I decided to narrow our

970
01:16:34,94 --> 01:16:40,37
focus for this tonight as even though there
are six spots all over the place but

971
01:16:40,46 --> 01:16:45,37
the most popular ones are between the harbor
entrance and Trinidad generally and so

972
01:16:45,38 --> 01:16:50,80
those are the ones that I would we are
looking at as far as infrastructure needs

973
01:16:51,36 --> 01:16:53,63
things that we're already working on of

974
01:16:53,64 --> 01:16:59,38
a camel rock could appoint you guys on
there where that isn't. Working out and

975
01:16:59,39 --> 01:17:05,70
signage and I'm going to individual
sites I will just go. Up there

976
01:17:06,38 --> 01:17:10,41
it's one of the areas most popular spots
as I was saying there is really heavy

977
01:17:10,42 --> 01:17:15,01
impact around that whole Huda point area
when the surface good people will be part

978
01:17:15,02 --> 01:17:19,48
from that lookout spot where that house
is all the way down to love and hopes you

979
01:17:19,49 --> 01:17:24,80
know so the parking is just really crazy
the trails heavily used it gets regularly

980
01:17:24,81 --> 01:17:28,95
washed out in the winter it is
overgrown in the summer. Mantra's does

981
01:17:28,96 --> 01:17:33,08
a really good job of maintaining it overall
but you know the more dedicated help

982
01:17:33,50 --> 01:17:34,55
the better for that and

983
01:17:34,59 --> 01:17:38,76
a lot of people in the community like to
go there go type pooling or they have

984
01:17:38,77 --> 01:17:42,51
a picnic it's a little less crowded
than men stand on the beach and

985
01:17:42,88 --> 01:17:48,96
a little more and terminates and needs
it's very popular with just people not

986
01:17:48,97 --> 01:17:55,48
serving. We are currently working with the
land trust himself to. Etiquette signage

987
01:17:55,49 --> 01:17:59,85
because that's been a really big problem
as it's become more crowded there's been

988
01:17:59,86 --> 01:18:03,07
a lot of problems with people not
following etiquette which is

989
01:18:03,08 --> 01:18:09,68
a really big deal in the surf world
and. Threats are exchanged and people

990
01:18:09,69 --> 01:18:15,93
looked meaningly at each other it's terrible
so. So with regards to things that the

991
01:18:15,94 --> 01:18:22,48
district kids trail support of course
is always a benefit and. There's

992
01:18:22,49 --> 01:18:26,33
a lot of people that live near that
area you know from the Killi build

993
01:18:26,34 --> 01:18:28,00
a train and use it and

994
01:18:28,01 --> 01:18:32,82
a lot of people would walk or bike if
they could and that would really help

995
01:18:32,83 --> 01:18:35,41
alleviate with the other the
parking issue which is also

996
01:18:35,42 --> 01:18:42,41
a big problem Mr Beach. Manston is an
extremely popular beginner spot hints to the

997
01:18:42,42 --> 01:18:46,16
camps that have been there the center
activities classes have been there as well

998
01:18:47,02 --> 01:18:49,84
one of the big projects
that we're working on is

999
01:18:49,88 --> 01:18:56,74
a shower project. Did you guys know Glynn
Sokolow did any other groups do it yeah.

1000
01:18:58,30 --> 01:19:01,22
He was on the national
board of Surfrider for

1001
01:19:01,23 --> 01:19:05,77
a long time and is probably best
known for being a poly soccer Fessor

1002
01:19:05,78 --> 01:19:10,66
a college of the red with for many many
years and he is great if you've ever hung

1003
01:19:10,67 --> 01:19:13,01
out with them or had him for
a class and you know he was

1004
01:19:13,65 --> 01:19:18,27
a fantastic guy and. He
passed away about a year and

1005
01:19:18,28 --> 01:19:23,27
a half ago and we have some funds that
have been donated in his memory with the

1006
01:19:23,28 --> 01:19:26,56
hopes of getting a shower
go in there again there is

1007
01:19:26,57 --> 01:19:28,50
a shower there but it's
been turned off for

1008
01:19:28,51 --> 01:19:33,24
a number of years to just send conflicts
with Sam marry a man who owns

1009
01:19:33,25 --> 01:19:35,73
a property although he's
supportive of the idea of

1010
01:19:35,74 --> 01:19:40,74
a shower he got tired understandably of
paying the bill and especially because

1011
01:19:40,78 --> 01:19:41,20
there were

1012
01:19:41,21 --> 01:19:46,20
a lot of people that would come in use the
showers that all times and you know this

1013
01:19:46,20 --> 01:19:52,91
. Problem seems to be an inherent
issue. So what we want to do and we're

1014
01:19:52,92 --> 01:19:57,83
working with Sam and with the land.
Is put in a shower again with

1015
01:19:57,84 --> 01:20:01,39
a couple different shower
heads and foot washes have

1016
01:20:01,40 --> 01:20:03,38
a place where people can
put their boards up on

1017
01:20:03,39 --> 01:20:07,01
a rack so they could really just like set
them aside not have to put on the rocks

1018
01:20:07,02 --> 01:20:09,90
or anything. Have

1019
01:20:09,91 --> 01:20:14,02
a couple benches there and it would be
great not just for surfers but also there

1020
01:20:14,03 --> 01:20:17,49
are so many families that used to be people
that like to swim in the river and I

1021
01:20:17,50 --> 01:20:21,81
think it be great for the whole community
so that's that's why we really want to do

1022
01:20:21,82 --> 01:20:27,28
it I'm in stone because it would benefit
everyone not just us I think parents could

1023
01:20:27,29 --> 01:20:30,92
watch their kids or they get in the car
there's just so many things they would be

1024
01:20:30,99 --> 01:20:37,99
when when the shower was running
people used it all the time. And so

1025
01:20:38,00 --> 01:20:41,37
we are if you've been to mince and
you may have noticed there's like

1026
01:20:41,38 --> 01:20:44,90
a million different signs all over the
place so we're working with the land trust

1027
01:20:44,91 --> 01:20:50,20
to put in one big new sign it's John
Redwood it's really nice it will look

1028
01:20:50,21 --> 01:20:51,57
a lot better it will be

1029
01:20:51,58 --> 01:20:55,79
a lot more visible it will hopefully
alleviate some of the problems they're also

1030
01:20:55,80 --> 01:20:59,28
putting into new dog it's
very exciting. There's

1031
01:20:59,29 --> 01:21:04,89
a huge problem with parking there as well
so again the shower project any support

1032
01:21:05,54 --> 01:21:11,14
is offered for that we would love and
bike trails again useful because of the

1033
01:21:11,15 --> 01:21:16,14
parking on this developing the insula if
you've ever been out that back road by the

1034
01:21:16,15 --> 01:21:18,89
fog lines you may have noticed there's
a shower there it hasn't worked for

1035
01:21:18,90 --> 01:21:21,94
a couple years but I'm happy
to say that we have purchased

1036
01:21:21,95 --> 01:21:26,61
a new shower and it should be installed and
running by November first very excited

1037
01:21:26,62 --> 01:21:29,07
about that but we have Lynn and we have

1038
01:21:29,08 --> 01:21:34,22
a fund to maintain that but it's
limited if it were good for

1039
01:21:34,23 --> 01:21:35,22
a number of years and is

1040
01:21:35,23 --> 01:21:41,52
a serious heavy duty seller however any
support there would be. As shallow as

1041
01:21:41,53 --> 01:21:45,48
similar beach would also be good for the
same reasons one would be good in stone

1042
01:21:45,49 --> 01:21:49,59
it's very popular for surfing and for
beach going the entire peninsula would

1043
01:21:49,60 --> 01:21:51,54
benefit from improved bike access there's

1044
01:21:51,55 --> 01:21:55,24
a lot of people that would opt not to drive
if they could bike out. There safely

1045
01:21:55,25 --> 01:22:00,37
but right now you can't
do that. And that's. To.

1046
01:22:05,68 --> 01:22:12,59
Get you off you know for example. There
were no troopers. But it was your last

1047
01:22:13,48 --> 01:22:18,48
thank you I mean nothing against you the
Jets are already voted when you go down

1048
01:22:18,49 --> 01:22:23,45
this road there are you're going to accept
that but the real question for Joe Myers

1049
01:22:23,57 --> 01:22:27,62
here I was going to wonder did you know all
of those magazines and you know there's

1050
01:22:27,63 --> 01:22:32,94
a lot of focus on recreation being you
know good for us it's. The bills and then

1051
01:22:32,95 --> 01:22:38,28
there's the focus on the economic impact
and generally happens to be associated

1052
01:22:38,29 --> 01:22:42,47
with out of towners coming into town is
your view your stress me you know like the

1053
01:22:42,48 --> 01:22:46,08
out of towners coming for that
particular activity at all or is it

1054
01:22:46,17 --> 01:22:46,81
a let me ask you

1055
01:22:46,82 --> 01:22:53,09
a little I don't I don't know about numbers
is probably not studies done I mean the

1056
01:22:53,13 --> 01:22:57,59
best way. Like if you went to the service
shops you know you could find that out

1057
01:22:57,60 --> 01:23:03,77
they said that people don't like to know
about it. But if I mean some other thing.

1058
01:23:04,79 --> 01:23:09,69
Yeah let it go I mean people come through
it when I go down to San Francisco there

1059
01:23:09,70 --> 01:23:14,15
are shops down there and there's always
people who have just come back doing tours

1060
01:23:14,16 --> 01:23:20,18
down the coast and. Say Yeah I don't have
hard vast numbers but you've said there's

1061
01:23:20,19 --> 01:23:20,38
quite

1062
01:23:20,39 --> 01:23:24,49
a few chances are you're out there to
vacation or perhaps your trip to stop there

1063
01:23:24,50 --> 01:23:26,19
for a while yeah and it's a real it is

1064
01:23:26,20 --> 01:23:30,27
a really big draw like I was saying
especially people in Southern California who

1065
01:23:30,28 --> 01:23:32,07
are from the east coast because it's

1066
01:23:32,38 --> 01:23:37,04
a unique area it's so different and they
love it despite the cold and everything

1067
01:23:37,05 --> 01:23:40,98
and it's bigger here it's very early so
it's like that appeal of you know if you

1068
01:23:40,99 --> 01:23:45,32
can go to Hawaii instead of the warm big
waves you can go to to Humboldt and earn

1069
01:23:45,33 --> 01:23:51,63
your credit that way you're. A pleasure
to listen to the what more did about

1070
01:23:51,74 --> 01:23:55,78
history worst of all things yes that
was something. More of the insane.

1071
01:23:56,89 --> 01:24:02,44
Entertaining series see. That
and I'm wondering if that's

1072
01:24:02,45 --> 01:24:08,27
a draw to hardcore surfers to earn their
cred step but it would actually they've

1073
01:24:08,28 --> 01:24:12,36
been close their theories that have come
out here and practice there tellin in the

1074
01:24:12,37 --> 01:24:16,01
banter and said yeah it's doesn't
get seriously beat which is

1075
01:24:16,02 --> 01:24:22,27
a. Very entertaining yappin they see
the guys out there and they said.

1076
01:24:23,43 --> 01:24:28,04
Yes definitely because it's there's not
that many big waves like that on the

1077
01:24:28,05 --> 01:24:33,90
California stand and it's an extremely
accessible because it's right there. Larry.

1078
01:24:35,38 --> 01:24:42,37
You're not the surfers so
the story. Is well it's

1079
01:24:42,58 --> 01:24:49,16
just. Stupid. And that's something that
you know that especially with the way the

1080
01:24:49,17 --> 01:24:56,12
wisdom of history is to watch just
three this person is always sort of

1081
01:24:56,13 --> 01:25:00,99
which is adventuresome with guilt or myself
but it's you know it's another one of

1082
01:25:01,00 --> 01:25:05,76
those features that we have of just
recreational watching other people do sporting

1083
01:25:05,77 --> 01:25:09,94
activities that it's very entertaining
and that's the and if he has

1084
01:25:09,95 --> 01:25:11,61
a big screen in the end it's

1085
01:25:11,62 --> 01:25:16,28
a great phrase that can explain you can
marry happening if you can make him happy

1086
01:25:16,29 --> 01:25:18,11
and say the very thing yet to be

1087
01:25:18,17 --> 01:25:22,96
a plaything they're freaking me out there
you can see it at the high variance you

1088
01:25:22,97 --> 01:25:27,97
can be there rag on the side and watched
it now to acquire any real and I've been

1089
01:25:27,98 --> 01:25:28,46
out there with

1090
01:25:28,47 --> 01:25:33,64
a hundred people who did you know with
their lines years I can educate them yeah.

1091
01:25:35,00 --> 01:25:40,04
Absolutely I should embrace you learn to
sort of play with the always very well

1092
01:25:40,05 --> 01:25:46,87
fifteen feet is just heard it has been
running along to date and enjoy their boards

1093
01:25:46,88 --> 01:25:50,20
it. Enough to. Get

1094
01:25:50,21 --> 01:25:56,84
a. Job or right. Jeff. It's been
with redwood community action agency

1095
01:25:57,11 --> 01:26:03,44
for quite some time she says natural
resources director or co-director she is

1096
01:26:03,83 --> 01:26:10,47
a specialist in many things but
particularly high rep no development and

1097
01:26:10,48 --> 01:26:12,18
planning and she's done

1098
01:26:12,19 --> 01:26:17,77
a lot on trails on water trails and I'm
very glad that you troubleshoot your busy

1099
01:26:17,78 --> 01:26:23,84
schedule and why and I'm guessing you
do so. If you feel like I'm going to be

1100
01:26:23,85 --> 01:26:30,09
co-presenting with Mike but they're probably
all nuts the person. Trails chest. And

1101
01:26:30,10 --> 01:26:33,00
I think passed out some information about
troop strength and I'm going to start

1102
01:26:33,01 --> 01:26:36,63
around right now and we have eleven copies
of this but it's called the economic

1103
01:26:36,64 --> 01:26:40,78
benefits of walkable communities the kind
of promise that you know for the most

1104
01:26:40,79 --> 01:26:46,33
part is going to be on their feet off the
front foot and that's how to do that by

1105
01:26:46,34 --> 01:26:52,56
the local government mission and
that So we're going to talk about

1106
01:26:53,34 --> 01:26:58,64
lame trails water trails not just about
recreation but but active transportation

1107
01:26:58,65 --> 01:27:03,78
and how that plays into the school
which are. Going to give you

1108
01:27:03,79 --> 01:27:09,70
a little brief overview my parents had
seen her and I'm kind of current status or

1109
01:27:09,89 --> 01:27:11,83
claim the lady groundwork for

1110
01:27:11,84 --> 01:27:16,77
a systems I'd have Charles
is the largest and then talk

1111
01:27:16,78 --> 01:27:22,99
a little bit about half knowledge tell the
relationship to the. Time to start out

1112
01:27:23,00 --> 01:27:26,21
with. Water trail X.

1113
01:27:26,22 --> 01:27:29,60
Factor and the wired wired trip there's

1114
01:27:29,61 --> 01:27:35,34
a lot of help from around the country and
how many there are knows more about that

1115
01:27:35,81 --> 01:27:41,37
I know but well how will they have this
group class how many are there are many

1116
01:27:41,38 --> 01:27:47,94
many out there say that lots of other
places left here and they feel so lucky to

1117
01:27:47,95 --> 01:27:54,41
have this loop and the open and even you
know the training that they push you know

1118
01:27:54,41 --> 01:28:00,48
. Well these are estimates
here that we. Will see.

1119
01:28:01,58 --> 01:28:02,04
And so

1120
01:28:02,05 --> 01:28:09,24
a lot of concept is really improving access
to credit stakeouts and attention routes

1121
01:28:09,25 --> 01:28:14,26
or other forms of supporting. Kayaking.

1122
01:28:16,25 --> 01:28:22,73
Activity. So that if it's
caught and other sources have

1123
01:28:23,01 --> 01:28:29,56
access through this signage help for the
South where and how their access or other

1124
01:28:29,57 --> 01:28:34,35
things like restrooms probably happen on
one leg when you get on your boat and of

1125
01:28:34,36 --> 01:28:36,52
course parking like we've
just heard from Jim from

1126
01:28:36,88 --> 01:28:42,90
a popular place it's really important
information is really critical part of

1127
01:28:42,91 --> 01:28:48,44
facilitating kayaking and commuting
in I don't know if you've noticed but

1128
01:28:49,28 --> 01:28:50,67
Walmart Cosco

1129
01:28:50,68 --> 01:28:56,46
a lot of these places sell crap and tracks
of some form now it is and you see them

1130
01:28:56,47 --> 01:29:02,55
on a lot of recreational vehicles going
by along by some backpacks and so there's

1131
01:29:02,56 --> 01:29:09,38
a huge. Public Now that is interested
wants that access and with people get

1132
01:29:09,39 --> 01:29:11,88
out there in the bay and they
realize holy moly this is

1133
01:29:11,89 --> 01:29:17,53
a wild place and it's literally a stone's
throw from where they live and it's

1134
01:29:17,54 --> 01:29:21,16
a completely different perspective when you
get on the bay for most of you've been

1135
01:29:21,17 --> 01:29:27,79
up there. And when you can do it easily
there's just I think there's an incredibly

1136
01:29:28,18 --> 01:29:34,34
big market that could be tapped for
facilitating people's access to the information

1137
01:29:35,03 --> 01:29:39,58
about how to get out of the big into the
sea really. There's I think there's

1138
01:29:39,59 --> 01:29:46,25
a huge lake potential with. Much
lower investment required then save

1139
01:29:46,26 --> 01:29:52,35
big multi-use trail systems that are like
small roads to build so. We did and the

1140
01:29:52,36 --> 01:29:58,20
SAS min of all the places that people. Use
around the bay to gain access to me in

1141
01:29:58,21 --> 01:30:05,12
two thousand and one in. My state that
he's here betrayals feasibility study

1142
01:30:05,13 --> 01:30:05,27
it's

1143
01:30:05,28 --> 01:30:10,05
a cold and it's in here and then in last
year you know well not because today was

1144
01:30:10,15 --> 01:30:16,19
the big binder of the water trails
implementation study did this

1145
01:30:16,62 --> 01:30:23,02
implementation study project. Go into
little bit more detail and here so

1146
01:30:23,56 --> 01:30:28,27
in the current situation is that most stocks
and sites are designed for paddlers So

1147
01:30:28,28 --> 01:30:32,14
I would like. To get in and out
on a dock here but if you're on

1148
01:30:32,15 --> 01:30:37,29
a pad you had to chin up to get out of
your boat on the dock and then other spots

1149
01:30:37,30 --> 01:30:41,46
around the bay you have to
know where they are. Because

1150
01:30:41,72 --> 01:30:48,64
a lot of them would like to you know that
you put your boat in their. Boats but

1151
01:30:49,24 --> 01:30:54,40
the study that was completed last
year by Noel and her criticism.

1152
01:30:56,03 --> 01:31:02,30
In partnership with the district looked
at some key priority sites around the bay

1153
01:31:02,31 --> 01:31:07,16
for improving access and so this
is the Martian wildlife sanctuary

1154
01:31:07,17 --> 01:31:10,06
a spot. Where there is

1155
01:31:10,07 --> 01:31:16,61
a proposal for an improved dock. We're not
where it used to be on the existing boat

1156
01:31:16,95 --> 01:31:23,87
but on the other end. Thank you.
Might even help the. Story group

1157
01:31:24,30 --> 01:31:30,21
we want to give people who were just
we were placed in the deep seas the

1158
01:31:31,02 --> 01:31:37,86
Europeans. TO THIS IS SO
there you are it's yes

1159
01:31:38,51 --> 01:31:43,88
you can feel the sea installing
the dock it's not. So war for

1160
01:31:43,89 --> 01:31:48,91
a larger craft access to the bay
there and then so it looked at

1161
01:31:48,92 --> 01:31:53,09
a number of different sites around the Bay
Now this one is on Mansfield landing and

1162
01:31:53,10 --> 01:31:54,57
including this one because this. Is

1163
01:31:54,58 --> 01:31:58,25
a simple modification that we have
designs for that can be added to

1164
01:31:58,26 --> 01:31:59,92
a lot of docs around the baby find

1165
01:31:59,93 --> 01:32:04,26
a spot that's going to be out of the way
of the Motorcraft to be able to step down

1166
01:32:04,26 --> 01:32:10,92
. To improve other access sites
then behind you here you'll

1167
01:32:10,93 --> 01:32:16,82
see on the wall some printouts that
thank you for printing those aspects of

1168
01:32:16,83 --> 01:32:22,22
a map and guide and an interpretive sign
on the far right that is kind of the the

1169
01:32:22,76 --> 01:32:29,71
manifestation of that map and that
would be. Posted on site to provide

1170
01:32:29,72 --> 01:32:35,00
lots of safety information and padding
tips and access information and when we

1171
01:32:35,01 --> 01:32:39,15
developed this implementation
strategy we put

1172
01:32:39,16 --> 01:32:45,36
a lot of stuff in have since we overly
off kinds of threatening your species

1173
01:32:45,37 --> 01:32:52,21
information to really track where we're
talking about pointing people to and

1174
01:32:52,22 --> 01:32:57,68
where was really appropriate and not
appropriate to AIM people to work with you

1175
01:32:57,69 --> 01:33:03,34
know significant concern about maintaining
what is gold to us here which is our you

1176
01:33:03,35 --> 01:33:09,82
know the capital. So that I should
say is in draft form and in the

1177
01:33:09,83 --> 01:33:16,44
district and talk and others are.
Are motivated working toward

1178
01:33:17,08 --> 01:33:22,47
having this produced we have produced it
with the idea that you know when it became

1179
01:33:23,05 --> 01:33:28,14
you know when it was time when you had
you know however many of these newer You

1180
01:33:28,15 --> 01:33:32,36
want to be able to indicate them on the
map this is the rate of print and the

1181
01:33:32,37 --> 01:33:36,76
district and everybody's school and let's
just get the thing out there because it's

1182
01:33:37,63 --> 01:33:42,46
you know people can use it even if all these
things aren't quite built for yet. So

1183
01:33:42,47 --> 01:33:47,88
that's exciting. That's good reading to
the streets here I'm not sure exactly the

1184
01:33:47,89 --> 01:33:54,77
timeline but probably in the next year the
reason. And then just sun. You know the

1185
01:33:54,78 --> 01:34:00,83
stuff the hockey lives in Greece and you
know how how do people spend money when

1186
01:34:00,84 --> 01:34:06,74
they go paddling you know it's all you know
fairly obvious it's not it's not cheap

1187
01:34:07,75 --> 01:34:10,75
you know you can pick up
a basic sit on top for

1188
01:34:11,11 --> 01:34:14,87
a couple hundred or three hundred dollars
and then there are you know there's

1189
01:34:15,39 --> 01:34:17,18
there's packs out there
that are worth more than

1190
01:34:17,32 --> 01:34:23,79
a truck so. There's the full range of
investment that you can me in this sport.

1191
01:34:24,98 --> 01:34:27,93
And there's a line of most people
I know have you know they're in

1192
01:34:27,94 --> 01:34:28,68
a boating they've got

1193
01:34:28,69 --> 01:34:33,47
a lot of them for all the different
conditions they're interested in areas to put

1194
01:34:33,48 --> 01:34:39,82
it so. You know it's very similar to
recreational fishing and what OP was talking

1195
01:34:39,83 --> 01:34:46,37
about is capturing that demand and that
interest that's driving one and also for

1196
01:34:46,38 --> 01:34:50,60
local folks it never ceases to amaze me how
many people haven't been out on the bay

1197
01:34:50,64 --> 01:34:50,97
or in

1198
01:34:50,98 --> 01:34:58,09
a paddle back to live here
and to each of it. All

1199
01:34:58,16 --> 01:35:03,77
kinds of folks it's really available. To
anybody and we've even literally looked at

1200
01:35:03,78 --> 01:35:10,34
making it accessible for folks with
media as well. So this is some

1201
01:35:10,35 --> 01:35:15,88
information that no well founded an
economic impact study in the northeast.

1202
01:35:17,40 --> 01:35:24,01
What average expenditures. Catheters.
And there are lots of different

1203
01:35:24,02 --> 01:35:27,33
factors but it's just interesting to see
that you know people might spend if

1204
01:35:27,34 --> 01:35:30,09
they're renting. Or they're going on

1205
01:35:30,10 --> 01:35:32,80
a guided trip they're spending
you know getting close to

1206
01:35:32,81 --> 01:35:37,22
a thousand dollars and then if they're
little babies there's obviously you know

1207
01:35:37,23 --> 01:35:37,66
they're spending

1208
01:35:37,67 --> 01:35:41,93
a lot less per trip. And then just they
threw this on the bottom to the new home

1209
01:35:41,94 --> 01:35:47,83
found the simple Cisco Bay Area water trail
system is in there government code that

1210
01:35:48,53 --> 01:35:51,53
you know all these trivial systems have

1211
01:35:51,54 --> 01:35:56,56
a positive regional economic benefit
there. Or they want to put emphasis into

1212
01:35:57,27 --> 01:35:58,09
building the T.V.

1213
01:35:58,09 --> 01:36:05,07
. So let's talk about planned trails and
they have these pictures up. To tell

1214
01:36:05,59 --> 01:36:12,57
you you know if you go.
Through. This stuff you

1215
01:36:12,58 --> 01:36:19,24
know slap me. At one. Of these pictures
here because if you travel outside of

1216
01:36:19,25 --> 01:36:20,86
normal can't even somewhere where there is

1217
01:36:20,87 --> 01:36:27,18
a regional trail system that's long
distance multi-use trails. There's not

1218
01:36:27,19 --> 01:36:33,18
a lot of clear stats out there about how
many you know miles of trails but there is

1219
01:36:33,22 --> 01:36:39,94
if they've been converted from
railroads and in places like Missouri

1220
01:36:39,98 --> 01:36:43,00
Michigan lots of places back east where
there were zillions of miles of roads and

1221
01:36:43,01 --> 01:36:48,27
lots of them were abandoned they turned the
houses of miles of them in the trail so

1222
01:36:48,28 --> 01:36:52,19
those are some numbers that I know like I
think it's Wisconsin has fifteen hundred

1223
01:36:52,20 --> 01:36:57,10
miles of just real trails. And all these
places you know I'm having my of you need

1224
01:36:57,11 --> 01:37:02,67
my seafood in British Columbia next to their
coastal trail they're reading you know

1225
01:37:02,90 --> 01:37:09,71
they've got the amazing bridge over there
that is an attraction in itself and I

1226
01:37:09,72 --> 01:37:14,22
would love to see the Hammond bridge you
know we can get battered please do you

1227
01:37:14,23 --> 01:37:14,98
know how to be like

1228
01:37:14,99 --> 01:37:21,56
a fish jumping into the river Our something
you know. Her really really cool bridge

1229
01:37:22,46 --> 01:37:25,81
but then Monterey you know you can read
between communities right next to the

1230
01:37:25,82 --> 01:37:29,65
highway there on the more they use trail
and then Portland of course is you know.

1231
01:37:30,72 --> 01:37:36,18
The Mecca were you know trail systems
and. So this is you know kind of

1232
01:37:36,19 --> 01:37:41,79
a rough vision of the humble Bay Trail
System that would be part of what the state

1233
01:37:41,91 --> 01:37:45,83
is working toward in California coastal
towns connected from one to the state the

1234
01:37:45,84 --> 01:37:49,94
other and this is just the backbone of
it you know the vision is that there are

1235
01:37:49,95 --> 01:37:56,45
connections down to the peninsula.
To the. And around table block.

1236
01:37:57,67 --> 01:38:02,18
But there are pieces of this system and
there are you doing to really see it but

1237
01:38:02,19 --> 01:38:06,05
there's the websites listed there that
have been planted there you know for the

1238
01:38:07,02 --> 01:38:09,60
market unique a trail there's

1239
01:38:09,61 --> 01:38:16,01
a you know big seventy five thousand dollar
piece Billy state document just on that

1240
01:38:16,02 --> 01:38:21,94
piece and Mary. There is one hundred sixty
thousand dollars nearing and these Billy

1241
01:38:21,95 --> 01:38:27,36
state for that I mean this is but this is
just some of the kids in China children

1242
01:38:27,37 --> 01:38:28,98
are doing well but there's only about

1243
01:38:28,99 --> 01:38:35,23
a resurgent means ability and engineering
planning been done around this region

1244
01:38:35,31 --> 01:38:40,18
trail system and it just like to play bigger
than in Europe because not only in the

1245
01:38:40,18 --> 01:38:46,72
. Word for trust but the battle started
out in the region city trails community.

1246
01:38:50,07 --> 01:38:55,88
In two thousand and five we finished the
waterfront. For vision document that

1247
01:38:55,89 --> 01:39:02,79
really covers all the waterfront proffer
from got us talking about her on

1248
01:39:02,80 --> 01:39:09,60
out but I just wanted to give so
I to be. One cartoonist finish

1249
01:39:09,61 --> 01:39:16,17
we. Read through trail scripts with
through that was her. Project was

1250
01:39:16,18 --> 01:39:21,07
dissolved and we started the process in
the same time just to be open to see the

1251
01:39:21,11 --> 01:39:24,29
person wrecked and open
space commission for

1252
01:39:24,38 --> 01:39:31,38
a trio see the first time that was in
two thousand. Or six and can't for

1253
01:39:31,91 --> 01:39:33,60
instance I may have another critical C.

1254
01:39:33,99 --> 01:39:38,36
Because the focus for the readers to the
person or an open space commission has

1255
01:39:38,56 --> 01:39:42,26
sort of changed I mean they're doing they're
doing really good in recreation they

1256
01:39:42,27 --> 01:39:45,21
provide a lot for a lot of kids a mile

1257
01:39:45,22 --> 01:39:51,09
a lot of rehab stuff but in addition they're
realizing the because of the public

1258
01:39:51,10 --> 01:39:56,23
purse disappears in the first recognition.
People want to more access to the

1259
01:39:56,24 --> 01:40:00,73
waterfront and they want to more trails
to get there over and over and so we're

1260
01:40:00,74 --> 01:40:06,33
changing our focus lately to improve that
goal and it's been an education process

1261
01:40:06,34 --> 01:40:13,28
for everybody to the people who staff
like my oil. Being able to go well

1262
01:40:13,29 --> 01:40:18,06
you know we've never thought about this but
never thought about. The Waterfront is

1263
01:40:18,07 --> 01:40:24,54
same way every me have the boardwalk of
what it must be so there you go together in

1264
01:40:24,55 --> 01:40:27,11
general going to some more of that
in a minute but it's just been

1265
01:40:27,12 --> 01:40:32,54
a great focus and since that time.
Both the plan and process is the.

1266
01:40:33,86 --> 01:40:39,50
New. Multi-use trail in the
for the true spill to her.

1267
01:40:40,62 --> 01:40:47,11
Home road basically running through
the hallway of her area. You

1268
01:40:47,16 --> 01:40:50,36
recall that and that will be

1269
01:40:50,37 --> 01:40:57,37
a mall to use her solid surface trade
over the symbolism both in. Turkey and

1270
01:40:57,38 --> 01:41:02,81
polluting the trailhead of the for the
trees do the honors the mall there of the

1271
01:41:02,85 --> 01:41:08,57
hopefully. Watercraft launch facility
vets are also so there will be

1272
01:41:08,58 --> 01:41:12,20
a connection between the two
eventually bacteria will be able to be

1273
01:41:12,21 --> 01:41:17,58
a recreation facility and also
the transportation order here.

1274
01:41:18,96 --> 01:41:25,69
And. I think that. You know what
this also is showing in this region

1275
01:41:25,70 --> 01:41:32,10
a little vision is that. And all these
feasibility studies what we're doing is

1276
01:41:32,14 --> 01:41:36,91
getting ready to lead Ridge you know
construction dollars here and some of the

1277
01:41:36,92 --> 01:41:41,88
things that we're trying to get through
would seem to be able to do that is just

1278
01:41:42,15 --> 01:41:46,42
kind of jurisdictional No-Man's Land
getting all the agencies to start to work

1279
01:41:46,43 --> 01:41:50,47
together and there are some projects that
are just now starting to be able to do

1280
01:41:50,48 --> 01:41:53,64
that we've got all the plans in place we
just need that kind of administration

1281
01:41:53,69 --> 01:42:00,12
mechanisms. Really to be able to get the
final environmental you know compliance

1282
01:42:00,13 --> 01:42:04,75
done and then attract construction dollars
like you know the fire hose that got

1283
01:42:04,76 --> 01:42:09,83
turned on with the stimulus if we didn't
have some of those pieces in place

1284
01:42:09,84 --> 01:42:14,60
a lot of this whole system could have been
for you know getting stimulus dollars.

1285
01:42:16,05 --> 01:42:21,71
To build so this is really that you know
getting burgers here in the bay. You know

1286
01:42:21,72 --> 01:42:25,61
this is this is that kind of system
we're we have funding from the coastal

1287
01:42:25,62 --> 01:42:29,84
Conservancy to masterplan the coastal
trail from one end of the mill Canyon the

1288
01:42:29,85 --> 01:42:35,64
other but it's been frozen since last
December because the pond so we're looking at

1289
01:42:35,65 --> 01:42:41,20
maybe in the next month being able to restart
that process and just so you can see

1290
01:42:41,21 --> 01:42:46,15
the bigger picture we're looking at seven
times around her whole county and.

1291
01:42:47,65 --> 01:42:54,00
Meeting and county regional trail master
plan for the association governments right

1292
01:42:54,01 --> 01:42:59,90
now that is looking at these these regional
trails systems and I just want to point

1293
01:42:59,91 --> 01:43:00,25
out that

1294
01:43:00,29 --> 01:43:04,08
a lot of most of my emphasis is actually
not recreation its transportation it's

1295
01:43:04,39 --> 01:43:09,88
it's making sure that we have basic access
for every one of every need means and

1296
01:43:09,89 --> 01:43:14,51
that means being able to
walk or. Basically have

1297
01:43:14,52 --> 01:43:20,16
a system an active transportation system
that works it also works for recreation

1298
01:43:20,69 --> 01:43:20,98
and it's

1299
01:43:20,99 --> 01:43:25,88
a very attractive system for recreation but
our main streets are highways and these

1300
01:43:25,89 --> 01:43:27,71
are places where we also have

1301
01:43:27,72 --> 01:43:30,74
a lot of commerce and we have people on
their feet and that thing that I passed

1302
01:43:30,75 --> 01:43:34,52
around is really about that about how do
you get people on their feet how do you

1303
01:43:34,53 --> 01:43:39,70
attract them out of their cars instead
of just driving again. And keep them and

1304
01:43:40,34 --> 01:43:44,23
help them spend more money in the community
and this is and these types of things

1305
01:43:44,24 --> 01:43:49,61
also meet many many objectives that then
you'll hear next from and Lindsay is this

1306
01:43:49,65 --> 01:43:54,16
Every dollar spent on an active transportation
recreation facilities also spent on

1307
01:43:54,16 --> 01:44:00,13
. Economic Development greenhouse gas
emissions reductions shifting car modes of

1308
01:44:00,14 --> 01:44:04,08
travel Here's some examples
you're probably familiar with

1309
01:44:04,09 --> 01:44:09,33
a hand in trail I should have brought her
maps that we have on our website but up

1310
01:44:09,34 --> 01:44:11,48
in the top corner to the right we have

1311
01:44:11,49 --> 01:44:17,28
a whole system of youthful interpretive
signs and kiosks and directional signs from

1312
01:44:17,45 --> 01:44:22,51
roads and highways to be able when people
do the trail and then intrigue them on to

1313
01:44:22,52 --> 01:44:26,69
let along the trail and they've been sitting
because of the bond freeze we haven't

1314
01:44:26,70 --> 01:44:33,41
been able to solve yet hopefully pretty
soon they will leave you. Instead of

1315
01:44:33,53 --> 01:44:39,55
having you know where to go find it.
On the freeway Yeah he was sitting.

1316
01:44:41,35 --> 01:44:46,49
Pretty soon and I had this construction
photo here because these are big

1317
01:44:46,50 --> 01:44:51,60
construction projects these are roads and
it takes just about what it takes to

1318
01:44:51,61 --> 01:44:53,06
build a road so so there's

1319
01:44:53,07 --> 01:44:57,24
a whole and I'll get into that the minute
I cannot mix and that. Is really the

1320
01:44:57,25 --> 01:45:03,90
trail everybody wants to go to meetings
and their ability. They want trail today

1321
01:45:04,28 --> 01:45:04,78
as

1322
01:45:04,79 --> 01:45:11,81
a big priority so. So that's really you know
that's the gem of the system and our kids

1323
01:45:11,82 --> 01:45:16,13
moving forward with their
piece they just awarded

1324
01:45:16,14 --> 01:45:21,12
a contract that's funded by the coast
Conservancy to the winter in Cali team is

1325
01:45:21,13 --> 01:45:25,88
going to be looking at design alternatives
between the skate park and Marsh they're

1326
01:45:25,89 --> 01:45:29,74
in the finishing now
December so that's really

1327
01:45:29,75 --> 01:45:35,50
a pioneering effort to figure out how
the heck to build this trail in. It in

1328
01:45:35,54 --> 01:45:40,30
between Whelan's highways railroads in the
neighborhoods Got Talent that they're

1329
01:45:40,31 --> 01:45:44,21
going to figure it out.
What I was talking about

1330
01:45:44,22 --> 01:45:51,08
a minute ago is waterfront trail and
problem in OD. And it's up on the

1331
01:45:51,09 --> 01:45:53,03
Internet to look at it it's

1332
01:45:53,04 --> 01:45:58,69
a six mile. Our friend trailing Here's one
of the planning maps in that document

1333
01:45:58,88 --> 01:46:00,83
that if you've wondered
why the heck there's

1334
01:46:00,84 --> 01:46:03,19
a trail behind target it's
because there's there's

1335
01:46:03,20 --> 01:46:09,69
a vision for connecting that entire trail
system around six mile waterfront. Just

1336
01:46:09,70 --> 01:46:10,74
to drive and we were just

1337
01:46:10,75 --> 01:46:14,38
a couple weeks ago of the.
Search and rescue mission took

1338
01:46:14,39 --> 01:46:18,74
a tour of the city staff and looked at
all the sites one more time just to get

1339
01:46:18,75 --> 01:46:21,29
a leader and there is

1340
01:46:21,30 --> 01:46:25,51
a lot of movement and you should just get
the stretch from target underneath one of

1341
01:46:25,52 --> 01:46:28,96
one because that's a it's a big
important thing to give people

1342
01:46:29,20 --> 01:46:34,93
a way to get to the waterfront without
having to cross fourth and fifth Street and

1343
01:46:34,97 --> 01:46:40,75
eventually that the trail is going off
into the bottom here or here in the South

1344
01:46:41,13 --> 01:46:46,32
will come out and very center
of. Their go down behind.

1345
01:46:49,47 --> 01:46:56,40
Him into the. Marsh through the goal of the
for the old and shoreline or what it's

1346
01:46:56,41 --> 01:47:02,10
called and so really people coming from
that part of the Greek murder weapon who.

1347
01:47:03,89 --> 01:47:08,13
Will be able to get down and pass underneath
the freeway eventually at one point

1348
01:47:08,14 --> 01:47:11,64
and won't be out of the water from the
most wonderful connecting trail that will

1349
01:47:11,65 --> 01:47:17,99
provide. Access to that will be remarked
area that is pretty good so simple now of

1350
01:47:18,00 --> 01:47:24,85
the water and also the water. And
so pieces this is just like the

1351
01:47:24,86 --> 01:47:25,32
Hampshire

1352
01:47:25,33 --> 01:47:29,32
a lot of these things happen happened
in six minutes and so the target P.C.

1353
01:47:29,33 --> 01:47:29,61
Did

1354
01:47:29,65 --> 01:47:34,55
a good example of if you have your plan
in place when those developments happened

1355
01:47:34,56 --> 01:47:38,25
long waterfront it's just part
of the. You know I've talked

1356
01:47:38,26 --> 01:47:42,82
a lot with security national over the
years about their piece of property their

1357
01:47:43,81 --> 01:47:46,46
books you know and about
their vision for they have

1358
01:47:46,47 --> 01:47:51,89
a strong trail vision of all their projects
and and then pieces have Interpublic

1359
01:47:51,90 --> 01:47:57,05
you know underneath the Caltrans bridge.
You know funded by public dollars So it's

1360
01:47:57,06 --> 01:47:59,24
a it's a network and it has to have

1361
01:47:59,28 --> 01:48:05,29
a dedicated jurisdiction who's going to go
after these pieces and make them happen

1362
01:48:05,30 --> 01:48:10,53
when those are two things proactive and
that's going to go back to her current

1363
01:48:10,54 --> 01:48:16,50
mission but we do try to give notice to
them something's coming up to its proximity

1364
01:48:16,51 --> 01:48:21,37
to where they might. Want to move
the problem for property or is

1365
01:48:21,38 --> 01:48:27,73
a. Really interesting use
and listening to. This is

1366
01:48:27,74 --> 01:48:29,61
a really exciting project
we were going on for

1367
01:48:29,62 --> 01:48:35,24
a long time they were fun aspects of this.
I think even the four of you when you're

1368
01:48:35,25 --> 01:48:37,82
in the city. And this is

1369
01:48:38,73 --> 01:48:45,43
a wildlife area in the city it's right
behind Pearson's it's one of the year one of

1370
01:48:45,44 --> 01:48:50,76
the best places to see a lot of
birding in the Bay. It used to be

1371
01:48:50,93 --> 01:48:54,43
a little stink here than it is now and
then there's the few less stinky things

1372
01:48:54,44 --> 01:48:59,93
going on in the day that hit this spot
but it's incredible public access and

1373
01:49:00,46 --> 01:49:06,19
paddling in the ass to area and what's
proposed here is there's an existing trail

1374
01:49:06,23 --> 01:49:07,92
it's not paved it's difficult to get

1375
01:49:07,93 --> 01:49:14,86
a bike on because the. Maids But let's
proposed it is extending that and making

1376
01:49:14,87 --> 01:49:20,38
it will take from town the road at the
bottom there to choose Dale basically and

1377
01:49:20,39 --> 01:49:20,61
add

1378
01:49:20,62 --> 01:49:25,19
a new vista points and improve visitor
access points just give two hundred thirty

1379
01:49:25,20 --> 01:49:27,78
thousand dollars to the
project and the city have

1380
01:49:27,79 --> 01:49:32,73
a one point four million dollars really
closely and it's bond fund it so it's

1381
01:49:32,74 --> 01:49:37,37
probably going to get shelled till the
state has some more money to throw up

1382
01:49:37,38 --> 01:49:41,71
projects like this but it's ranking
high so far so that's you know that's

1383
01:49:41,72 --> 01:49:48,32
a block off want to want that's
right behind the mall and it's an

1384
01:49:48,33 --> 01:49:49,85
easy spot to drive

1385
01:49:50,14 --> 01:49:55,57
a lot of folks to and manage their access
and their other parts around. Where you

1386
01:49:55,58 --> 01:49:56,21
know you don't want

1387
01:49:56,22 --> 01:49:59,82
a lot of people visiting you know
more sensitive places but this is

1388
01:49:59,83 --> 01:50:03,96
a place where we can really manage those
accents and there are number one tones

1389
01:50:03,97 --> 01:50:07,18
MOTOS among the. Best Western is

1390
01:50:07,19 --> 01:50:13,35
a great example it's great across the
contracts from here. Reaction this is

1391
01:50:13,36 --> 01:50:18,51
interest with her you know wonderful one
being in the room with in the film already

1392
01:50:18,73 --> 01:50:25,70
or more. So get into the
economic benefits. Picture

1393
01:50:25,71 --> 01:50:32,17
because it's just for me as. My family
is love living within reach of you know

1394
01:50:32,18 --> 01:50:32,36
there's

1395
01:50:32,37 --> 01:50:36,85
a horrible houses within the reach of the
entrance but you've got to put in the

1396
01:50:36,86 --> 01:50:40,11
entry pretty amazing and
this is just started

1397
01:50:40,12 --> 01:50:45,72
a little steps down with each down there
so you know making sure that we can retain

1398
01:50:45,73 --> 01:50:48,67
it in my eight families and
businesses to the serious need of

1399
01:50:48,68 --> 01:50:55,31
a big part of the regional trail system
systems you know when Oracle is looking

1400
01:50:55,32 --> 01:50:59,66
here like they did hire many years ago and
they're looking at what is it that this

1401
01:50:59,67 --> 01:51:04,19
place has for my employees what are the you
know this is one of the things that can

1402
01:51:04,20 --> 01:51:10,23
speak to them all go over some data about
construction jobs associated with these

1403
01:51:10,24 --> 01:51:16,30
projects and minute. Incredible opportunities
for visitors and we have so much here

1404
01:51:16,31 --> 01:51:21,56
in the display by that you really know
what's here but there's also way more that

1405
01:51:21,57 --> 01:51:25,63
we could offer there's just
incredible potential if we have

1406
01:51:25,64 --> 01:51:31,73
a connected network to find how much more.
But if you think of if you can go from.

1407
01:51:32,79 --> 01:51:38,82
The beach to table. Or Out to
go swimming in blue you know on

1408
01:51:38,83 --> 01:51:39,87
a trail that's

1409
01:51:39,88 --> 01:51:46,05
a pretty powerful. Package to offer folks
and then you know one thing I want to

1410
01:51:46,06 --> 01:51:49,25
mention is that there's lots of studies
out there that say that these types of

1411
01:51:49,26 --> 01:51:54,15
facilities cover or exceed any weakness
in operations costs that are associated

1412
01:51:54,16 --> 01:51:58,59
with that. So there's lots of different
types of income that are generated from

1413
01:51:58,60 --> 01:52:02,52
these facilities there's direct tax and
income of people buying things there is

1414
01:52:02,53 --> 01:52:07,23
this troubling but there's also lots of
studies to show that as people go by

1415
01:52:07,24 --> 01:52:11,33
businesses on these trails those
businesses experience lots of the you know

1416
01:52:11,37 --> 01:52:16,22
significant increased. Revenue
just it's like it's like

1417
01:52:16,23 --> 01:52:20,36
a form of advertisement just being next
to the trail lots of communities these

1418
01:52:20,56 --> 01:52:26,68
businesses near trails and turned to face
them in Monterey and most of this. But

1419
01:52:27,23 --> 01:52:32,53
what the county Public Works Director
Thomas and says that's the lead but I've

1420
01:52:32,54 --> 01:52:39,50
actually been in the city. And most of the
trail. Can't make it you know where if

1421
01:52:39,51 --> 01:52:45,23
you look at this map. Most of it falls
into your section so those are some issues

1422
01:52:45,24 --> 01:52:50,11
we have these label they're going to get
all those additional sales to maintain the

1423
01:52:50,12 --> 01:52:54,22
trail probably So that's one thing we're
starting to get these agencies together to

1424
01:52:54,23 --> 01:52:58,49
talk about and money use for collectively
managing the trails themselves when they

1425
01:52:58,95 --> 01:53:03,38
feel that. We're just you know you can
see how much money we're largely left

1426
01:53:03,51 --> 01:53:08,25
a lot of money in studies and we and there's
more money to be leveraged if we can

1427
01:53:08,26 --> 01:53:13,50
get this thing built. And I'll come back
to that when actually I'm going to just go

1428
01:53:13,51 --> 01:53:19,29
to this construction jobs I am in Shell
example. Of the Year in two thousand and

1429
01:53:19,30 --> 01:53:24,53
seven we hired fifteen different contractors
firms about fifty of their staff were

1430
01:53:24,54 --> 01:53:27,94
working on this project
we had thirty five C.C.C.

1431
01:53:27,95 --> 01:53:31,24
Members out there they were
selling firing they all learned

1432
01:53:31,35 --> 01:53:36,10
a new trade and were super fired up about
it the contractors were so funny they

1433
01:53:36,11 --> 01:53:39,34
didn't want to leave they said this was our
favorite project this is so fun to work

1434
01:53:39,35 --> 01:53:43,35
with move it in and Miller firms and all
these guys they love going out work on the

1435
01:53:43,36 --> 01:53:47,95
trail project we had five staff in
our CA for longer than you know for

1436
01:53:47,96 --> 01:53:52,66
a year we were people still working on this
project like the signage elements of it

1437
01:53:52,66 --> 01:53:58,37
. Happen if the. And Kenny Pope works
for. Least five hundred thousand dollars

1438
01:53:58,38 --> 01:54:02,95
materials purchases and mostly
those are low purchases so that's

1439
01:54:02,96 --> 01:54:08,06
a real tangible economic included in the
economy and if we can leverage these

1440
01:54:08,07 --> 01:54:12,08
grants these are real jobs that we're
talking about for these types of trail

1441
01:54:12,09 --> 01:54:17,38
systems. There's lots of studies out
there that show that trails have

1442
01:54:17,39 --> 01:54:21,41
a positive effect on property values
bringing new money in the local economy

1443
01:54:22,37 --> 01:54:27,38
increased. Real estate sales
significantly near trails.

1444
01:54:29,10 --> 01:54:36,10
And that business is expand we're experiencing
sales near trails and then just lots

1445
01:54:36,11 --> 01:54:41,83
of data about how much people actually
spend and then one thing I would add about

1446
01:54:41,84 --> 01:54:46,61
that they didn't click on that slide is
that for every dollar of investment in my

1447
01:54:46,66 --> 01:54:51,98
head trails you get two dollars and ninety
four cents in direct medical benefit and

1448
01:54:51,99 --> 01:54:53,06
that's a study that was done by

1449
01:54:53,07 --> 01:54:58,30
a whole host of Ph D.'s M.D.'s and masters
of public health and yet no that's not

1450
01:54:58,60 --> 01:54:58,77
been

1451
01:54:58,78 --> 01:55:06,09
a center. Just want to say that's
part of the economic benefits. To

1452
01:55:06,10 --> 01:55:11,01
sell it and they're totally in the
man I took this picture in B.C.

1453
01:55:11,02 --> 01:55:16,29
And all the cool new condos and housing
units are all going right next to their

1454
01:55:16,30 --> 01:55:19,01
trail systems they have these
amazing trails systems it's really

1455
01:55:19,02 --> 01:55:21,29
a lot like writing around
here because this will be

1456
01:55:21,30 --> 01:55:26,21
a similar education and it just got me
really just from with like who is so amazing

1457
01:55:26,22 --> 01:55:30,49
place writing down the enemy and very
into the holders and you know Mabel's and

1458
01:55:31,35 --> 01:55:35,65
over these big trestles but
you have been Victoria B.C.

1459
01:55:35,74 --> 01:55:39,85
But that's where the developers
want to build and in Vancouver B.C.

1460
01:55:39,86 --> 01:55:44,12
The Waterfront developers are battling each
other by trying to style and shirk out

1461
01:55:44,13 --> 01:55:47,79
their part of the waterfront trail the
best so that you want to invest in their

1462
01:55:47,83 --> 01:55:54,34
projects it's pretty amazing and so this
is borne out locally in Arcadia study that

1463
01:55:54,35 --> 01:55:59,06
the. City did trails for recreation
transportation workers residents number one

1464
01:55:59,31 --> 01:56:02,78
priority. And that's the city's really put

1465
01:56:02,79 --> 01:56:09,72
a lot of energy and effort so. Again
this back this is. Just when you know.

1466
01:56:15,38 --> 01:56:20,85
The resources if you guys want some of
these. There's the water trail study that

1467
01:56:20,86 --> 01:56:26,73
new welding just finished last year and
work with people in the district on that's

1468
01:56:26,74 --> 01:56:32,14
available on our website think the
draft math is there but there's

1469
01:56:32,15 --> 01:56:37,00
a huge toll trails and economic development
information available at the American

1470
01:56:37,01 --> 01:56:43,68
trails or site that organization is based
in reading. And. Then there's lots of

1471
01:56:43,69 --> 01:56:47,93
trail feasibility studies Oh you know when
to actually last thing I want to mention

1472
01:56:48,85 --> 01:56:54,43
money in the county. And pretty much all
the cities the county and most of the

1473
01:56:54,44 --> 01:56:59,57
tribes and Caltrans are working on fifty
million dollars in Active Transportation

1474
01:56:59,58 --> 01:57:03,81
batsman's to Humboldt County and this is
available on the trails trust were slashed

1475
01:57:03,98 --> 01:57:04,88
H.P.T.

1476
01:57:05,31 --> 01:57:11,99
Website. People powered pathways and it's
part of the federal transportation bill

1477
01:57:12,00 --> 01:57:18,36
reauthorization we're very focused on making
sure that Humboldt County is included

1478
01:57:18,37 --> 01:57:23,41
in that transportation bill through the
nation and getting fifty million dollars to

1479
01:57:23,42 --> 01:57:28,84
invest in an active transportation system
pieces built here and there but actual

1480
01:57:28,85 --> 01:57:35,54
system investment so that's probably going
to be an ongoing longer term process is

1481
01:57:35,55 --> 01:57:37,22
what I'm watching happen in D.C.

1482
01:57:37,23 --> 01:57:42,40
Is that they are pushing off this
transportation bill reauthorization to really

1483
01:57:42,41 --> 01:57:47,60
focus on things like health care
or something so. That you know.

1484
01:57:49,32 --> 01:57:50,65
That's that's definitely

1485
01:57:50,66 --> 01:57:55,19
a golden egg if we can bring that to this
community if it were. A million dollars

1486
01:57:55,20 --> 01:57:59,40
in the human shell got us that list jobs
you can imagine left in million dollars.

1487
01:58:01,07 --> 01:58:05,24
And the New York Times just featured
Portland and they said they spent about ten

1488
01:58:05,25 --> 01:58:10,87
million dollars on trail infrastructure
and they're reading many many told us you

1489
01:58:10,88 --> 01:58:16,78
can actually get off an airplane for their
work and you know stop trail system

1490
01:58:16,79 --> 01:58:23,28
right there and that's so I mean it really
it's you can get their credit report to

1491
01:58:23,28 --> 01:58:28,54
. Get out there that's going to take

1492
01:58:28,55 --> 01:58:33,58
a couple of questions and you guys like
it Jennifer and all of that with. What.

1493
01:58:35,61 --> 01:58:42,59
We're. See existing What
is what modifications of

1494
01:58:42,91 --> 01:58:47,87
code your tax. Issues
might be necessary to.

1495
01:58:49,42 --> 01:58:56,40
Consider. The word. For
it that's made in the

1496
01:58:56,41 --> 01:59:01,28
infrastructure like the city of Arcade it
increased their sales tax so that making

1497
01:59:01,59 --> 01:59:05,15
money available for investing in logics
like this is that what you're welcome you

1498
01:59:05,16 --> 01:59:11,83
know sometimes code words we use
it. Or there it's necessary

1499
01:59:11,84 --> 01:59:13,89
to create

1500
01:59:14,56 --> 01:59:20,54
a tax either considerations or modifications
so that you're not penalizing people

1501
01:59:20,55 --> 01:59:27,06
through here or Unicenter by and that
same thing could be said code because

1502
01:59:27,74 --> 01:59:33,21
if you can put it in general updated
throughout consideration it's not

1503
01:59:33,22 --> 01:59:40,16
a piecemeal thing that you talked
about for other projects so you

1504
01:59:40,17 --> 01:59:47,11
see any. Issues you know this really
doesn't apply to the district here to

1505
01:59:47,12 --> 01:59:49,44
the harbor district or
if you're talking in

1506
01:59:49,45 --> 01:59:52,92
a different footprint for most Well that's
one thing I think that the campaign

1507
01:59:52,93 --> 01:59:58,42
trails masterplan is going to. You know
looking at I think not so much code it's

1508
01:59:58,43 --> 02:00:04,85
actual functional ability to or will they
jurisdictional relationships is really

1509
02:00:04,86 --> 02:00:06,20
the one thing that's been hanging up

1510
02:00:06,21 --> 02:00:10,62
a lot of this effort for many years in the
end of it that project is going to look

1511
02:00:10,66 --> 02:00:15,79
at one thing that hung up the hole in the
Hammond for ten years what is that there

1512
02:00:15,80 --> 02:00:21,07
trails were allowed in county. Ordinances
were allowed in riparian zones but roads

1513
02:00:21,08 --> 02:00:26,57
were. Precise So we really needed that and
then we could go forward with that piece

1514
02:00:26,58 --> 02:00:30,34
of the trail but you know I
can't say that I know there's

1515
02:00:30,35 --> 02:00:36,39
a lot of conflicting regulatory
issues like see if you build

1516
02:00:36,40 --> 02:00:39,68
a rail with trail in the railroad
once of being fans or Caltrans ones

1517
02:00:39,69 --> 02:00:42,77
a big fence between the trail and the
highway and it's on the post was on the

1518
02:00:42,78 --> 02:00:47,86
Coastal Commission says anything the
fences not throw that kind of stuff that

1519
02:00:47,87 --> 02:00:48,59
actually killed

1520
02:00:48,60 --> 02:00:52,75
a six hundred thousand dollars bridge across
the river that state parks had funding

1521
02:00:52,79 --> 02:00:58,37
over getting the building trail
out to Lynn stone from the M.

1522
02:00:58,38 --> 02:01:03,49
Trail basically and it was the Coastal
Commission decided that the visual impacts

1523
02:01:03,50 --> 02:01:10,35
were too much and he cited four Yeah so
lizard lizard I think more of the the

1524
02:01:10,36 --> 02:01:15,69
hang ups and the kind of regulatory issues
that are going to realizing that you're

1525
02:01:15,70 --> 02:01:21,20
going to get through the adept enough
more quickly. Will go to Larry and then.

1526
02:01:23,19 --> 02:01:27,94
The third person traditionally close stuff
to death and you know how we group just

1527
02:01:28,06 --> 02:01:34,01
with the difference between you know
the residential trail user. And the.

1528
02:01:35,19 --> 02:01:40,51
Tourist road which are. Sort of the way
that I've always looked at it or kid

1529
02:01:40,52 --> 02:01:45,59
a particular issue is that if the person
stayed in their hotel and they got up in

1530
02:01:45,60 --> 02:01:49,27
their car and drive to the trail where
they're going to Trinidad what sort of

1531
02:01:49,28 --> 02:01:52,43
a car they're gone they're just going
wherever you don't have them in your local

1532
02:01:52,44 --> 02:01:56,91
You want to get out of the hotel room that
was. You know go to a restaurant go to

1533
02:01:56,92 --> 02:01:57,62
a walk get on

1534
02:01:57,63 --> 02:02:03,24
a trail take your dog to your bike whatever
you want to do and so that sort of the

1535
02:02:03,54 --> 02:02:09,13
trick with these trails is to have the
linkage to you know the services that the

1536
02:02:09,14 --> 02:02:13,52
tourists need direct linkage that's what
people want us to directly and it's the

1537
02:02:13,53 --> 02:02:18,35
combination of building for the residents
but we have to make it simple for the

1538
02:02:18,36 --> 02:02:24,80
tourists to get on so they don't have to
drive here it's. Easy inviting to that

1539
02:02:24,96 --> 02:02:31,46
visitor got to be just no brainer for them
figure it out that I can make them march

1540
02:02:31,47 --> 02:02:35,45
and continue the trail and knowing where
they're going to go where they're going to

1541
02:02:35,54 --> 02:02:41,36
happen how to plan their trip is that
you're right and so was it just the

1542
02:02:42,14 --> 02:02:46,91
educational goals and portion of it was
incredible and really really thrilled we

1543
02:02:46,92 --> 02:02:53,84
drove. The curator of this show and say
it's only denying that. We're as human that

1544
02:02:53,85 --> 02:02:54,02
have

1545
02:02:54,03 --> 02:03:00,63
a clue that there is one around so I think
that will kind of education. The community

1546
02:03:00,64 --> 02:03:05,18
over those things that people always think
of that America is really going to have

1547
02:03:05,19 --> 02:03:11,58
sleeping when you do that and the
point trail. Is. You know this is

1548
02:03:12,13 --> 02:03:18,48
so he said really tickled my years in your
city or was that you seem to say that it

1549
02:03:18,48 --> 02:03:23,25
. A functional regional
trade system is really

1550
02:03:23,26 --> 02:03:29,89
a magnet for industry and maybe corporation
city and. I got admitted I've never

1551
02:03:30,09 --> 02:03:36,08
put those two together and. Is that
aided sire bull effect necessarily.

1552
02:03:37,60 --> 02:03:39,18
Like this therapy you know

1553
02:03:39,19 --> 02:03:46,12
a little bit of waking up and now as it is
that's you know that might generate more

1554
02:03:46,13 --> 02:03:52,28
support for more very you know interest if
that is really part of the trail which I

1555
02:03:52,29 --> 02:03:53,76
have a go at this the head of

1556
02:03:53,77 --> 02:03:57,97
a large and. Very firm here locally said
you know the thirty somethings are not

1557
02:03:57,98 --> 02:04:02,01
impressed with lots of green spaces between
the houses and the towns they want

1558
02:04:02,59 --> 02:04:08,37
their regional interest rusher in so I
think you know like. That whole I five

1559
02:04:08,38 --> 02:04:12,26
corridor in Oregon they said after the
Northwest forest plan of the spotted owl

1560
02:04:12,70 --> 02:04:15,53
that it was all going to go south and
they've built up this recreational

1561
02:04:15,54 --> 02:04:19,37
infrastructure of their populations Well
they've got lots of these self called

1562
02:04:19,38 --> 02:04:21,18
Valley type jobs and at

1563
02:04:21,19 --> 02:04:25,33
a very educated enough scale workforce and
the same thing is true with transfer of

1564
02:04:25,34 --> 02:04:29,29
wealth with your Tyreese they come in here
for recreational amenities and quality

1565
02:04:29,30 --> 02:04:33,93
of life and. You know that it's kind of
frustrating because that's not necessarily

1566
02:04:33,94 --> 02:04:38,58
a direct job sometimes it is paid by an
existing small business and make the choice

1567
02:04:38,59 --> 02:04:42,70
to bring their capital here in that regard
but otherwise they might be you know

1568
02:04:42,89 --> 02:04:45,41
living on the hill in a nice
house and have most of money in

1569
02:04:45,42 --> 02:04:50,56
a bank but there's still lots of wealth
that comes to us different forms because of

1570
02:04:50,57 --> 02:04:57,04
this in terms of the people here and it's
reflected in the demographics read well

1571
02:04:57,93 --> 02:04:58,60
as a developer

1572
02:04:58,61 --> 02:05:05,94
a. Second this everything you're saying
about trails Well I'm sure. It'll

1573
02:05:05,95 --> 02:05:06,58
make you her

1574
02:05:06,59 --> 02:05:12,08
a little bit more appealing. It's hundred
percent true that's what we planned.

1575
02:05:15,05 --> 02:05:21,86
This year though that I see here local media
says is we need mission man could have

1576
02:05:21,87 --> 02:05:25,52
been the actually one of the architects
designing the project in the one hundred

1577
02:05:25,81 --> 02:05:31,84
percent it was going to Vancouver look
at their trail systems. Is they want to

1578
02:05:31,85 --> 02:05:38,74
invest in you know how I mean are are
you Rico's waterfronts of lease and

1579
02:05:38,75 --> 02:05:44,63
you look at various areas you've got
huge blocks of city on property how.

1580
02:05:46,91 --> 02:05:52,36
Are you going encourage development the
water. With all the regulatory hurdles and

1581
02:05:52,37 --> 02:05:55,50
that's that's your key you could
build this thing with a. I have

1582
02:05:55,51 --> 02:06:01,79
a private developers will build. I mean
how does your group reach out. I mean he

1583
02:06:01,80 --> 02:06:03,50
reached out to us obviously because we got

1584
02:06:03,51 --> 02:06:09,61
a lot of it and were brought before.
But how do you think sometimes.

1585
02:06:11,33 --> 02:06:17,45
It's true and I think the key is one thing
I mentioned earlier is to make sure that

1586
02:06:17,46 --> 02:06:23,30
the each local jurisdiction is is pursuing
this of their own accord I mean I can

1587
02:06:23,41 --> 02:06:25,64
pursue it. From

1588
02:06:25,65 --> 02:06:30,52
a nonprofit standpoint tramples But
when you have here public works in your

1589
02:06:30,53 --> 02:06:36,50
planning staff keyed into looking for these
opportunities and moving them forward

1590
02:06:36,55 --> 02:06:39,25
and promoting what they've got as

1591
02:06:39,26 --> 02:06:44,45
a part of the package this is one piece of
the full mascot that they offer I think

1592
02:06:44,46 --> 02:06:45,34
that is

1593
02:06:45,35 --> 02:06:52,35
a mix of being different
personally and. Trying

1594
02:06:52,36 --> 02:06:58,68
to streamline the regulatory stuff for
the restoration community so that. Is

1595
02:06:58,69 --> 02:07:03,84
a big part of it and I know it's I don't
know if I can test that because you know.

1596
02:07:04,89 --> 02:07:07,98
You've got ten different regulators and
they all want something different they're

1597
02:07:07,99 --> 02:07:09,79
not board meeting that's a that's a that's

1598
02:07:09,80 --> 02:07:15,40
a big challenging task. You know it's

1599
02:07:15,41 --> 02:07:22,00
a bit hard to just get through. All
the permitting and help them with it

1600
02:07:22,25 --> 02:07:23,43
so that you know we have

1601
02:07:23,44 --> 02:07:27,85
a staff or that's acquainted can provide
the science side and then of course still

1602
02:07:27,86 --> 02:07:31,22
participate with consultants
but that we have kind of

1603
02:07:31,37 --> 02:07:37,53
a cohesive you know coach to the regulatory
so that. We try to make some progress

1604
02:07:37,96 --> 02:07:42,30
also have kind of familiar faces sort of
like new people all the time and we know

1605
02:07:42,49 --> 02:07:46,81
you know their their book I mean
would that be desirable if they were

1606
02:07:46,99 --> 02:07:48,59
a governmental entity if there's

1607
02:07:48,60 --> 02:07:55,00
a vision here or the water. Had secret
behind it that engineering this. Lines and

1608
02:07:55,01 --> 02:08:00,10
it was done this is the decision and the
kind of scratch on the paper that if all

1609
02:08:00,11 --> 02:08:04,49
the pieces were in place the city could
have pulled out the tightest interest for

1610
02:08:04,50 --> 02:08:09,39
this project. To get built you know but
does this of the pieces and not some of the

1611
02:08:09,46 --> 02:08:14,15
molten jurisdictional kind of work that we
need to do and to help you know I think

1612
02:08:14,16 --> 02:08:18,42
a lot of the local jurisdictions doing
they don't mind me it's a little bit of

1613
02:08:18,43 --> 02:08:18,92
a chicken in

1614
02:08:18,93 --> 02:08:22,79
a dish or they feel like they need investment
they chanted and that's that these

1615
02:08:22,80 --> 02:08:27,77
things but then they return on the
investment is huge but the beginning that

1616
02:08:27,82 --> 02:08:31,44
initial investment in getting the sequined
place here finally is nearing the end

1617
02:08:31,45 --> 02:08:37,77
and stuff that's the piece that's been
missing. You know one of the things we've

1618
02:08:37,78 --> 02:08:41,56
been talking about since we read the
single biggest problem is the one we're

1619
02:08:41,57 --> 02:08:46,51
talking and this is this is the single
biggest issue that economic development that

1620
02:08:46,60 --> 02:08:50,55
we're going to have to we're going to
face of never going to have to figure out

1621
02:08:50,56 --> 02:08:54,80
a way around because without facing that
issue without figuring out how to get

1622
02:08:54,81 --> 02:08:58,97
permits you're not going to move anything
forward be it residential be commercial

1623
02:08:58,98 --> 02:08:59,21
would be

1624
02:08:59,22 --> 02:09:05,42
a group creation but it's classic to let
states who wants to run and the other

1625
02:09:05,43 --> 02:09:06,79
state agency thinks it's

1626
02:09:06,80 --> 02:09:14,28
a supply that's. Their connect
let's not let's not dwell. But

1627
02:09:14,29 --> 02:09:15,73
I think it's a it's

1628
02:09:15,74 --> 02:09:19,56
a very nice experiment and it's one of the
challenges just committed to recognize

1629
02:09:19,57 --> 02:09:26,06
those and see if there are solutions that
we can craft and so there was very light

1630
02:09:26,06 --> 02:09:32,87
. Very very encouraging and so. And and

1631
02:09:32,88 --> 02:09:36,87
Lindsay is going to bet last for
the panel she started off of

1632
02:09:36,88 --> 02:09:42,37
a caddy of public health director she
is. Going to talk about the financial

1633
02:09:42,38 --> 02:09:47,28
benefits of the proposed associated
with procreational infrastructure.

1634
02:09:49,27 --> 02:09:53,94
So this is about individual patient care
we're concerned about the community as

1635
02:09:53,95 --> 02:09:59,78
a whole. And one of our jobs is to get
data together about the health status and

1636
02:09:59,79 --> 02:10:05,33
health issues and and to in order to inform
policy and that spirit I'm here tonight

1637
02:10:06,01 --> 02:10:09,87
and there's ample evidence about
the impact of that away to

1638
02:10:09,96 --> 02:10:16,69
a community is laid out on health and people
are Mar likely to be physically active

1639
02:10:16,70 --> 02:10:23,67
it's if it's easy to do it and that Matz
there certainly and the Sistine activities

1640
02:10:23,68 --> 02:10:25,35
of the harbor district

1641
02:10:25,36 --> 02:10:30,48
a lot of opportunities for promotion of
physical activity but certainly when you

1642
02:10:30,49 --> 02:10:36,29
look at the broader vision and linking it
to multi-use trails you really. See that

1643
02:10:36,30 --> 02:10:42,92
even more. Just the Center
for Public Health Advocacy

1644
02:10:43,63 --> 02:10:44,20
released

1645
02:10:44,21 --> 02:10:53,54
a report recently that showed economic
impact and county by county. For

1646
02:10:53,73 --> 02:10:59,27
physical inactivity and obesity and the
total cost to Humboldt County according to

1647
02:10:59,28 --> 02:11:05,94
this study is one hundred twelve million
dollars per year. And if you narrow it

1648
02:11:05,95 --> 02:11:12,33
down to physical inactivity it's fifty one
million dollars about half of which is

1649
02:11:12,37 --> 02:11:18,69
direct health care costs and twenty five
million dollars in lost productivity in

1650
02:11:18,70 --> 02:11:25,49
the workforce and that accounts for it is
accounted for by absences if people are

1651
02:11:25,50 --> 02:11:31,65
just not coming to work they're sick short
term disability and then presenteeism

1652
02:11:31,66 --> 02:11:38,14
which means you're on the job but the
the lights. That nobody is home. And

1653
02:11:38,56 --> 02:11:45,13
that adds up to approximately three
percent of work time that is lost is not

1654
02:11:45,14 --> 02:11:49,96
productive because of physical inactivity
and that totals fifty seven hours per

1655
02:11:49,97 --> 02:11:54,29
person per year and you multiply that out
times of population Humboldt County is

1656
02:11:54,30 --> 02:12:01,05
seven point four million hours of productivity
lost which is always impress I was

1657
02:12:01,06 --> 02:12:08,06
love multiplying times one hundred
twenty seven thousand. So if we work the

1658
02:12:08,07 --> 02:12:14,98
same. If we were to decrease physical
inactivity and humbled by five percent. It

1659
02:12:15,21 --> 02:12:21,17
would improve the local economy
Productivity five point six million dollars

1660
02:12:21,66 --> 02:12:23,21
a year so I think that's

1661
02:12:23,22 --> 02:12:28,96
a good goal. And actually compound up
partnership practical living can which is

1662
02:12:28,97 --> 02:12:33,50
a community for activity and nutrition and
our department Health and Human Services

1663
02:12:33,51 --> 02:12:34,63
have worked on

1664
02:12:34,64 --> 02:12:39,52
a series of community goals and one of
them we wanted it that the Right now there

1665
02:12:39,53 --> 02:12:45,06
are sixty three percent of the adult
population do not meet physical activity goals

1666
02:12:45,07 --> 02:12:49,66
as. Thirty minutes of
physical activity five times

1667
02:12:49,67 --> 02:12:53,96
a week so if we could our goal is to increase
it to fifty percent but if Anyway if

1668
02:12:53,97 --> 02:12:56,40
we just got. A mean for

1669
02:12:56,41 --> 02:12:59,60
a five percent increase in physically
active adults that would be sixty five

1670
02:12:59,61 --> 02:13:05,70
hundred more adults physically
active. So how do you do it you may.

1671
02:13:06,97 --> 02:13:11,58
Increase the quality and quantity and
accessibility of Park school grounds

1672
02:13:11,59 --> 02:13:18,39
multi-use trails you know make
connections and open spaces. That

1673
02:13:18,48 --> 02:13:25,18
that so behind the health care savings are
reducing the risk of early death heart

1674
02:13:25,19 --> 02:13:32,08
disease type two diabetes. High blood
pressure and depression in order to prevent

1675
02:13:32,09 --> 02:13:37,36
preventing weight gain and which improves
your heart and lung and muscular fitness

1676
02:13:37,71 --> 02:13:42,57
and your thinking processes and that's
the bind the presenteeism of people are

1677
02:13:42,82 --> 02:13:49,22
spaced out rather than working. And so our
national goal is to get fifty percent of

1678
02:13:49,23 --> 02:13:55,86
adults and gauged in physical activity in
for children it same kind of argument.

1679
02:13:57,54 --> 02:14:03,06
Just increases their wellbeing and courage
is positive health behavior and reduces

1680
02:14:03,07 --> 02:14:06,26
their chances of developing chronic
disease and a child born today has

1681
02:14:06,27 --> 02:14:11,44
a one in four chance of developing type
two diabetes just because. Obesity and

1682
02:14:11,45 --> 02:14:18,31
physical activity are climbing and
and. Diabetes follows that so.

1683
02:14:21,51 --> 02:14:24,40
It's. In my. In

1684
02:14:24,41 --> 02:14:30,43
a show that's life.
That's well that's almost

1685
02:14:31,34 --> 02:14:36,57
I guess so but just to show
that. There are there.

1686
02:14:39,46 --> 02:14:43,95
This is about healthy weight some humble
students just it we actually have

1687
02:14:44,12 --> 02:14:49,78
a problem and feels like everybody should
have access to. Good food and physical

1688
02:14:49,79 --> 02:14:56,01
activity but relative to urban areas we
have higher obesity rate and you can see

1689
02:14:56,02 --> 02:15:02,34
also that. The blue markers are from two
thousand and three two thousand and four

1690
02:15:02,35 --> 02:15:08,76
measurements that we public health took
in schools and the red lines are from two

1691
02:15:08,77 --> 02:15:12,59
thousand and six and two thousand and seven
measurements we took in school and the

1692
02:15:12,60 --> 02:15:16,74
number of children or the percentage of
children that are at healthy weight is

1693
02:15:16,75 --> 02:15:20,37
decreasing across the board in
all the age groups of the K.

1694
02:15:20,50 --> 02:15:25,84
Through to the fifth grade and eighth
and temporary So we have to work as

1695
02:15:25,85 --> 02:15:32,61
a community rapid three or four
years. Or that it was very rapid like

1696
02:15:32,66 --> 02:15:36,75
yeah we're going to hopefully armors finish
repeating it again this year or next

1697
02:15:36,76 --> 02:15:39,34
year and may see if it's a trend or

1698
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:46,44
a statistical. Change but. We
want our children to be happy and

1699
02:15:46,76 --> 02:15:53,49
learn better and and become productive
citizens and this isn't directly related to

1700
02:15:53,49 --> 02:16:00,42
. The they trailed But if
kids are able to. Get to

1701
02:16:00,43 --> 02:16:05,62
school or get to where they need to go by
active transportation is much better off

1702
02:16:05,63 --> 02:16:10,33
and this just shows you some of the
percentages it mostly kids get shepherded

1703
02:16:10,58 --> 02:16:14,43
around and by car which you
live kills landing it was

1704
02:16:14,44 --> 02:16:21,30
a page held examined. I mean I know you
could that be because it's part of having

1705
02:16:21,31 --> 02:16:23,51
a connected system and not just you know

1706
02:16:23,52 --> 02:16:27,21
a lot there's all too many neighborhoods
where you get like three or four blocks of

1707
02:16:27,21 --> 02:16:29,95
. Of a bike trail or

1708
02:16:29,96 --> 02:16:36,54
a sidewalk and then they poop out and
that's partly why kids are tethered to cars

1709
02:16:36,55 --> 02:16:41,16
which tether their parents to cars
and get all of us driving around

1710
02:16:41,17 --> 02:16:45,21
a lot of me and my little kids are the only
one kind of domestic help I would have

1711
02:16:45,22 --> 02:16:46,10
really appreciated was

1712
02:16:46,11 --> 02:16:54,72
a chauffeur but I did. So. And

1713
02:16:54,73 --> 02:16:59,76
it is basically a more. Left more
people in cars more traffic you have

1714
02:16:59,77 --> 02:17:05,50
a makes it harder for people who want to
not be in cars. And walking and biking

1715
02:17:05,51 --> 02:17:12,38
reduces traffic air pollution.
And there's some specific

1716
02:17:12,39 --> 02:17:18,15
issues about. Schools which I won't get
into now but one of the goals also that

1717
02:17:18,16 --> 02:17:23,04
that are going to say she's have adopted
him are actually making plans to get the

1718
02:17:23,05 --> 02:17:28,22
whole community to sign on to this is to
reduce automobile travel and that there's

1719
02:17:28,23 --> 02:17:28,34
been

1720
02:17:28,35 --> 02:17:36,17
a steady increase in. Vehicle are
the vehicle miles traveled. And

1721
02:17:36,28 --> 02:17:37,29
there has

1722
02:17:37,30 --> 02:17:40,83
a direct relationship you know that the
more vehicle miles traveled the less

1723
02:17:40,97 --> 02:17:46,46
physical activity there is inverse
relationship and one thing you know we talk

1724
02:17:46,47 --> 02:17:49,97
a lot about encouraging high income people
that can move in the neighborhood and

1725
02:17:50,14 --> 02:17:56,41
come spend their money as turns in but
twenty seven percent of the median income in

1726
02:17:56,42 --> 02:18:01,81
Humboldt County is spent on transportation
and these are people you know who work

1727
02:18:01,82 --> 02:18:07,10
and and and you know raise their children
here and if they have option that they

1728
02:18:07,11 --> 02:18:12,05
don't have the car for expensive but if
and bicycles and and foot traffic is

1729
02:18:12,06 --> 02:18:17,27
a lot cheaper so it really meets all the
needs of people and community if we can

1730
02:18:17,28 --> 02:18:23,89
develop an effective trail system.
And. You know air pollution in

1731
02:18:23,90 --> 02:18:26,86
itself which it doesn't you
know doesn't feel like

1732
02:18:26,87 --> 02:18:32,52
a big problem here but that is an issue
that automobiles do contribute to air

1733
02:18:32,53 --> 02:18:39,15
pollution and greenhouse gases affect
climate change and. Which have

1734
02:18:39,16 --> 02:18:45,87
a whole host of. Health problems
including extreme weather

1735
02:18:45,88 --> 02:18:52,73
events water pollution. Diseases
that Born in food and water

1736
02:18:53,18 --> 02:18:58,59
and by mosquitoes and you know malaria.
It will probably come back in the United

1737
02:18:58,60 --> 02:19:05,49
States as it gets warmer. But. Some
of the activities that are that

1738
02:19:05,50 --> 02:19:10,86
we proposed to support the goal of reducing
vehicle miles traveled is basically

1739
02:19:11,28 --> 02:19:15,86
creating land use patterns and incentivize
development that accommodates and

1740
02:19:15,87 --> 02:19:18,72
encourages active transportation
so everybody that

1741
02:19:18,73 --> 02:19:23,74
a policy making body such as your this
group here and every Planning Commission

1742
02:19:24,01 --> 02:19:28,61
actually practitioners of public health
and probably have more impact than I do

1743
02:19:28,62 --> 02:19:35,46
even though I do that as my job but we can
make significant positive health impact

1744
02:19:36,29 --> 02:19:43,07
and there. And just
pulling out of the health

1745
02:19:43,08 --> 02:19:49,03
impact assessment that. Public health
participated in every county in general plan

1746
02:19:49,46 --> 02:19:55,91
some data about. That the amount
of the bike facilities that are

1747
02:19:55,92 --> 02:20:02,91
existing here and humble
County and. We live in class.

1748
02:20:04,54 --> 02:20:09,83
Which is just sign like yes yes yes so
that so there's not specifically you know

1749
02:20:10,64 --> 02:20:17,42
likely a bike that might be a bike
lane you know work which. So it's

1750
02:20:17,43 --> 02:20:24,28
a broad definition of bike facility
but this is the baseline and

1751
02:20:24,88 --> 02:20:31,44
that to her but the ratio of class one
bike to Sillett is to roads is point zero

1752
02:20:31,45 --> 02:20:36,75
two and the ratio of class to bike facilities
which is you know Mark Lane on the

1753
02:20:36,90 --> 02:20:42,57
street is point zero one which is you know
I think we can do better than that and

1754
02:20:42,58 --> 02:20:45,68
certainly this fifty million dollar
trail development will get us

1755
02:20:46,28 --> 02:20:53,13
a significant way along that and
that really is the gist of my

1756
02:20:53,14 --> 02:20:59,06
God it's something. Now.

1757
02:21:00,28 --> 02:21:01,65
The Talk.

1758
02:21:10,54 --> 02:21:16,53
Will. Now eighty seven hours.

1759
02:21:18,67 --> 02:21:24,05
Into quantifying the two hundred million
dollars figure that it was costing last

1760
02:21:24,06 --> 02:21:28,33
boat productivity like you multiplied by
one hundred twenty seven thousand and

1761
02:21:28,34 --> 02:21:33,65
that's every kid every man woman and child
in in Humboldt County is it fair to say

1762
02:21:33,66 --> 02:21:34,72
that every one of those is

1763
02:21:34,73 --> 02:21:39,52
a worker that is losing productivity Well
it at the statistics are per person so I

1764
02:21:39,53 --> 02:21:45,41
assume that you're right this is not all
that many and not everybody works but it's

1765
02:21:45,42 --> 02:21:49,72
not yet and then arresting probably
inflated my figure but that is my and as I

1766
02:21:49,73 --> 02:21:54,86
interpreted this study it was per person
and not per productively employed person.

1767
02:21:56,34 --> 02:22:02,28
But it still could be seen as good. By so
it might be half of that or it might be

1768
02:22:02,29 --> 02:22:06,26
that but that that if they if they did
that the bans on how and I didn't have

1769
02:22:06,27 --> 02:22:10,87
access to the full mathematics behind
the study because there really it's

1770
02:22:10,88 --> 02:22:17,34
trivialities you know. There's holes in the
increase your lack of or increase your

1771
02:22:17,35 --> 02:22:23,59
productivity because you're the reason
that you don't know all of them. Are.

1772
02:22:25,30 --> 02:22:25,94
Oppressed want to have

1773
02:22:26,39 --> 02:22:30,38
a lot of the talks you to be
focused on on land based uses for

1774
02:22:31,23 --> 02:22:36,90
a recreational activity but certainly you
know kayaking my thing. You weigh much

1775
02:22:36,91 --> 02:22:40,05
less on the water than you
do on the land so I get

1776
02:22:40,06 --> 02:22:44,65
a lot of very happy people come to harm
boats to get go kayaking up and people come

1777
02:22:44,66 --> 02:22:47,90
up really want to go kayaking
but I've got kayaks like

1778
02:22:47,91 --> 02:22:51,96
a whole six hundred pound so why not get
them on the water they get exercise and

1779
02:22:51,97 --> 02:22:55,07
they really feel like they're doing something
or they come back and do it again and

1780
02:22:55,08 --> 02:22:56,26
again I can see

1781
02:22:56,27 --> 02:23:01,67
a bloke and. Exercise and if we had the
infrastructure if we had the trail system

1782
02:23:01,68 --> 02:23:06,64
on the water then there'd be more ability
for them to do that it would be such

1783
02:23:06,65 --> 02:23:10,05
a scary proposition to go kayaking
in the back I think that's

1784
02:23:10,06 --> 02:23:13,31
a really good point it may have a medical
practice as well and that's always

1785
02:23:13,32 --> 02:23:18,03
a challenge your. Brains are at people
while you're not physically active What do

1786
02:23:18,04 --> 02:23:21,24
you like to do what can you do if you're
overweight to start with that you can't

1787
02:23:21,40 --> 02:23:28,02
you know that lambastes things are often
too much impact and and so swimming and

1788
02:23:28,25 --> 02:23:35,06
kayaking are very good sports.
For all the water we have here

1789
02:23:35,51 --> 02:23:41,63
the period or when it's directed to
school aged children we have almost no

1790
02:23:41,64 --> 02:23:48,49
schooling program no small craft program
it's all directed at high school. And

1791
02:23:48,50 --> 02:23:53,79
then. Are you seeing any programs in
place that we could use to get children

1792
02:23:53,80 --> 02:24:00,28
involved in aquatics to
expand their horizons. We've.

1793
02:24:01,41 --> 02:24:07,24
Really Got High School cut now in the
tree Ridge were treated at school it's

1794
02:24:07,25 --> 02:24:12,13
a big part of our business it's taken the
little kids out it's more come see the

1795
02:24:12,14 --> 02:24:16,89
biology the ecology of the area it's not
so much business like we do with it's

1796
02:24:16,90 --> 02:24:18,31
a big part of our business is just

1797
02:24:18,32 --> 02:24:22,10
a little bit out there even if the teachers
seek us out to do that rather than us

1798
02:24:22,11 --> 02:24:27,09
looking for that business and I think I had
like twenty one that struck me until I

1799
02:24:27,10 --> 02:24:33,65
was trying to get. John Bradley here
tonight sailing from the yacht club and he

1800
02:24:33,66 --> 02:24:38,06
there were Jim John Ashton because but
both of them are actually tonight they're

1801
02:24:38,07 --> 02:24:40,98
doing a youth sailing program on

1802
02:24:40,99 --> 02:24:46,86
a boat baby and so we couldn't have them
here in the city but there is some some

1803
02:24:46,87 --> 02:24:51,59
activities associated with that for you
but there needs to be more definitely and

1804
02:24:51,60 --> 02:24:52,34
you know and I went to

1805
02:24:52,35 --> 02:24:58,66
a conference that the district
here hosted last year. The

1806
02:24:58,67 --> 02:25:03,95
Marina's What was that wind the you mean
it wasn't Senos it for the Marine is one

1807
02:25:03,96 --> 02:25:04,44
for it was

1808
02:25:04,45 --> 02:25:09,25
a Marine in me wants to recruit strikers
Yeah whatever anyway it was it was

1809
02:25:09,26 --> 02:25:11,67
a West Coast Marine as
conference and they talked

1810
02:25:11,68 --> 02:25:18,22
a lot about the need for expanding into
youth programs for water sports and

1811
02:25:18,23 --> 02:25:23,46
especially boating because you know
they're seeing it you know kind of

1812
02:25:23,47 --> 02:25:29,44
a decrease in some of those activities and
ownerships of sailboats and larger boats

1813
02:25:29,45 --> 02:25:34,45
is actually shifting more into the paddle
boat arena due to economics and just sort

1814
02:25:34,46 --> 02:25:40,01
of the transit of what you know the society
and they are talking about it they were

1815
02:25:40,02 --> 02:25:45,11
talking about how more marinas are now
having programs directly related to you know

1816
02:25:45,12 --> 02:25:49,63
getting folks on the water in the different
craft outside just private ownership

1817
02:25:50,50 --> 02:25:53,70
somewhere I think that's a
great idea because you know

1818
02:25:53,71 --> 02:25:58,05
a lot of activity physical activity at
high schools anyway is ground team sports

1819
02:25:58,37 --> 02:26:01,04
and all very small percentage
of students can participate

1820
02:26:01,05 --> 02:26:06,52
a lot of kids are either not physically
able or not inclined and the more options

1821
02:26:06,53 --> 02:26:11,21
we can find sports like kayaking that they
can bring into their adulthood and keep

1822
02:26:11,22 --> 02:26:17,07
doing it we're just going to help create
keep that generation here there's like

1823
02:26:17,08 --> 02:26:23,81
kids out for speeding through
this. Yeah transition into

1824
02:26:24,07 --> 02:26:30,75
the panels that's the case that we.
Were really almost getting close to

1825
02:26:30,76 --> 02:26:36,40
done and it was there it's
just right for. Your party.

1826
02:26:38,33 --> 02:26:44,19
It was like oh. Well I mean not. L.A.

1827
02:26:44,20 --> 02:26:47,59
So we're supposed to end pretty soon and
if you want to you know opt out to do it

1828
02:26:47,60 --> 02:26:51,59
you do it that's OK but I think we do need
to kind of keep moving to get people out

1829
02:26:51,60 --> 02:26:58,16
here not to lose the momentum we're going
to go into. Into the. Into the panel

1830
02:26:58,17 --> 02:27:03,68
discussion I just want to say that you know
this you know we started this economic

1831
02:27:03,69 --> 02:27:07,11
development committee to look at different
aspects of economic development around

1832
02:27:07,12 --> 02:27:12,58
the bay and we and this is one of the ones
that obviously is popular and important

1833
02:27:13,47 --> 02:27:17,38
and it's in it's not just because it's
good for us it's because it actually has

1834
02:27:17,39 --> 02:27:21,16
value to the economy and sort of being you
know answer Dave's thing about you know

1835
02:27:21,63 --> 02:27:27,00
a lot of chamber of commerce's including
reading in other places you know they

1836
02:27:27,01 --> 02:27:32,57
highlight when they when they are. And
they're advertising to businesses and

1837
02:27:32,61 --> 02:27:35,56
entrepreneurs and those types
of people that want to move to

1838
02:27:35,57 --> 02:27:41,24
a place and workers to retain these are
the types of infrastructures and you know

1839
02:27:41,25 --> 02:27:45,88
facilities that they highlight very strong
amongst other things transportation and

1840
02:27:45,89 --> 02:27:50,69
other issues that they you know in and the
culture and those sorts of things but

1841
02:27:50,81 --> 02:27:54,44
these are these are among the highest
especially in California in the types of

1842
02:27:54,45 --> 02:28:00,81
workers technology workers and those and
and even and even labor workers there

1843
02:28:01,60 --> 02:28:06,38
they like these facilities and for their
families so it is important one of things

1844
02:28:06,39 --> 02:28:10,16
and I'm just going to I don't want to make
their work for David although I do all

1845
02:28:10,17 --> 02:28:15,30
the time is is you know there's always been
this question of an end does need to be

1846
02:28:15,31 --> 02:28:20,04
answered here at this at this particular
event but you know one of the things that

1847
02:28:20,11 --> 02:28:22,83
has been bandied about and
talked about is a district

1848
02:28:22,84 --> 02:28:29,73
a recreation district raid and we are
this we are recreation district we

1849
02:28:29,74 --> 02:28:34,80
haven't really necessarily defined the
bounds of what that is necessarily

1850
02:28:34,81 --> 02:28:37,98
geographically it's been discussed

1851
02:28:37,99 --> 02:28:42,45
a little bit but there hasn't been
and there hasn't been a line we have

1852
02:28:42,46 --> 02:28:47,67
a jurisdiction from a permitting
perspective but from even from

1853
02:28:47,68 --> 02:28:52,70
a harbor perspective it extends to roads
and airports and and railroads and those

1854
02:28:52,71 --> 02:28:54,95
sorts of things. And from

1855
02:28:54,96 --> 02:29:01,22
a recreation perspective it definitely
extends down to. Shelter Cove as far as you

1856
02:29:01,23 --> 02:29:06,55
know as far as what we've taken on we never
actually talked about where that where

1857
02:29:06,56 --> 02:29:11,29
the boundaries of that potential is and
so it's not again right to get into here

1858
02:29:11,30 --> 02:29:14,94
but it is something that we could
talk about in the future we're also

1859
02:29:14,98 --> 02:29:19,71
a conservation district that also hasn't
seen necessarily or has defined its

1860
02:29:19,72 --> 02:29:24,97
boundaries and so I just want to throw
that out there for future discussion and

1861
02:29:24,98 --> 02:29:29,00
break into the break into the panel and
with that we'll just go right into

1862
02:29:29,01 --> 02:29:34,79
questions. For them one thing I
would like to track on that is.

1863
02:29:35,98 --> 02:29:42,86
Through true process. In Miri real
trial the real basic human rights at

1864
02:29:42,87 --> 02:29:46,85
the age of this glittery
down there is a woman after

1865
02:29:46,86 --> 02:29:53,69
a talk about. You know
how do we link up our

1866
02:29:53,70 --> 02:29:57,92
jurisdiction to deal with
these regional systems in

1867
02:29:57,93 --> 02:30:02,18
a way that makes sense and there's lots of
models out there desires obviously lots

1868
02:30:02,19 --> 02:30:07,42
of hundred miles two hundred mile trail
systems up to deal with this but you know I

1869
02:30:07,84 --> 02:30:12,82
would just I would put out there that you
know we could have all the district in

1870
02:30:12,93 --> 02:30:17,20
those discussions to the extent you're
interested or not in will happen with the

1871
02:30:17,21 --> 02:30:21,63
kill the trail play a master
plan and process the any Marius

1872
02:30:21,64 --> 02:30:26,53
a little further afield but the same concept
you know for the Indian Marion's Ranch

1873
02:30:26,54 --> 02:30:32,01
area to cities Calgary and it's water
district you know and and the county and how

1874
02:30:32,02 --> 02:30:36,58
do you how does that facility work with all
those of you know between Or didn't you

1875
02:30:36,59 --> 02:30:42,66
read it all the same place the real Route
thirty. And so and Fish and Wildlife

1876
02:30:42,67 --> 02:30:48,05
Service and private landowners
and so. Having some sort of

1877
02:30:48,91 --> 02:30:55,51
catalyzing mechanism or some sort of
umbrella or function they can tell

1878
02:30:55,81 --> 02:31:01,77
that process obviously is going to be funded
that's the task. You know but that is

1879
02:31:01,78 --> 02:31:07,39
the that's one of the big hurdles. Really
you know Benito to be in rooms with.

1880
02:31:08,41 --> 02:31:15,40
Room each room that Jennifer Anniston
French and I've even Randy and him has

1881
02:31:15,41 --> 02:31:22,06
sat at I date cases where like detail has
come first and the channel itself has

1882
02:31:22,07 --> 02:31:29,05
sparked like. The summer is like every
parent reinvigoration of an area

1883
02:31:29,06 --> 02:31:35,02
or is it all. Like we want to tell that
to many in ten area and will also include

1884
02:31:35,03 --> 02:31:37,43
entailed in there as it is

1885
02:31:37,44 --> 02:31:44,20
a trail itself like inherently. Something
that propels the development I have two

1886
02:31:44,24 --> 02:31:50,94
responses that in as have others
the one is that the Tree Hill. Is

1887
02:31:51,57 --> 02:31:58,37
an engine in itself if it's connected
so pieces like that even say you

1888
02:31:58,38 --> 02:31:59,49
know the boardwalk is

1889
02:31:59,50 --> 02:32:05,36
a really tremendous asset and if it was
more connected it would be it would be many

1890
02:32:05,37 --> 02:32:11,00
many more times so that Hammond shrill.
Each piece that gets added on or connected

1891
02:32:11,01 --> 02:32:13,87
makes the whole thing way
more attractive to be

1892
02:32:13,88 --> 02:32:19,72
a green real estate and we did watch neighbors
fight that and then wall it off and

1893
02:32:19,73 --> 02:32:24,63
then turn around and face it and plant and
here take it but in other areas there

1894
02:32:24,64 --> 02:32:30,18
are tons of examples of what you're talking
about is that the trail comes first and

1895
02:32:30,19 --> 02:32:34,07
I think the front page of this little
pamphlet I passed out says that you build it

1896
02:32:34,71 --> 02:32:41,29
and if it is built. In its entirety
of its building nothing much in the

1897
02:32:41,30 --> 02:32:47,25
way that's well planned it does it track
additional investment and attract business

1898
02:32:47,36 --> 02:32:54,02
but if it's just pieces I don't think he
says so well first and sometimes those are

1899
02:32:54,03 --> 02:32:59,57
prone. To. Do it was just kids always
know where you go. And there are rumors

1900
02:32:59,58 --> 02:33:05,67
really that. The water from this area
which is the most serious which. Is

1901
02:33:05,68 --> 02:33:12,66
controlled by literally hundreds of
pride you know change in. The public

1902
02:33:12,67 --> 02:33:17,87
in the going to get them all by
and. You know there's a there's

1903
02:33:17,88 --> 02:33:22,18
a severe distrust between the private
property rights in public you know literally

1904
02:33:22,18 --> 02:33:26,12
. But when you get private
developers or block

1905
02:33:26,13 --> 02:33:30,74
a private developers filmy in the pieces
it doesn't take long. Unfortunately the

1906
02:33:30,75 --> 02:33:35,04
other guys say well you know how come
he's getting you know twenty five dollars

1907
02:33:35,05 --> 02:33:38,20
a foot for Israel stay you know
which is a lot of times it's just

1908
02:33:38,21 --> 02:33:39,71
a big mikey every room was

1909
02:33:39,72 --> 02:33:46,48
a yard thing here in Monterey. It
seems like wow he's embrace this

1910
02:33:46,49 --> 02:33:52,55
trail you know we plan for it is refurbish
new development. It catches on it

1911
02:33:52,56 --> 02:33:58,49
spreads in you know I mean right now I
mean you get it or three four dollars but

1912
02:33:58,55 --> 02:34:04,91
you know in the. Lower sections it will
take you know the industrial other this

1913
02:34:04,92 --> 02:34:08,57
seems to be pretty cool buildings you
know of the owner says an incentive in

1914
02:34:08,58 --> 02:34:13,29
traffic down there right now so
just like I said it was. So you got

1915
02:34:13,30 --> 02:34:16,18
a. Guy embrace

1916
02:34:16,19 --> 02:34:21,11
a private set aside to give themselves
behind in their work I mean it works it

1917
02:34:21,21 --> 02:34:28,00
might. Have had it I mean when they did

1918
02:34:28,21 --> 02:34:32,16
it would be to me to say that it that
once a tale is complete then it does

1919
02:34:32,86 --> 02:34:34,63
a sentiment of a sense that

1920
02:34:34,64 --> 02:34:39,27
a development. He had made is
that you think you can sell

1921
02:34:39,28 --> 02:34:44,50
a vision but until you see the
developers and the adjacent land. Yes.

1922
02:34:48,82 --> 02:34:55,59
I lived in the Vancouver.
Trails for. Softcover years

1923
02:34:55,60 --> 02:35:01,34
ago and I asked my in-laws about
that that city just bought

1924
02:35:01,35 --> 02:35:07,54
a lot of land for but granted
but when they bought the.

1925
02:35:09,50 --> 02:35:16,13
Frontage on the waterfront increase the
value of the back property so much. That

1926
02:35:16,80 --> 02:35:20,76
they were willing that the owners were
willing to say you know you can buy that

1927
02:35:20,86 --> 02:35:23,46
pretty good price because. There's

1928
02:35:23,47 --> 02:35:28,90
a really nice places right behind that
trail on what used to be essentially

1929
02:35:28,91 --> 02:35:31,84
a cesspool and that. It's

1930
02:35:31,85 --> 02:35:37,15
a Hidden Creek. Falls Creek
area that used to be polluted.

1931
02:35:38,99 --> 02:35:45,88
Or going to work for these
basic needs to. Be. There

1932
02:35:45,89 --> 02:35:52,81
within the trill. So it is

1933
02:35:52,82 --> 02:35:57,24
look we need to be looking at selectively
rezoning properties along this rail

1934
02:35:57,25 --> 02:36:00,63
corridor which is going to become the
rail trail down zoning some of these from

1935
02:36:00,64 --> 02:36:04,99
heavy industrial making another uses of
the modifying our land use but it does

1936
02:36:05,00 --> 02:36:07,51
because people are going to want to
develop on this thing when we do this and

1937
02:36:07,52 --> 02:36:11,74
they're going to want to build towards
the trail not building out the other

1938
02:36:11,75 --> 02:36:15,79
direction but have the back in towards
the trail network and then encouraging

1939
02:36:15,80 --> 02:36:20,06
certain types of developments within and
changing land use patterns and making

1940
02:36:20,07 --> 02:36:24,66
incentives for developers because. I
don't want to get grant money I want the

1941
02:36:24,67 --> 02:36:29,86
developers to pay for it you know I want
to encourage them open up the land that we

1942
02:36:29,87 --> 02:36:34,13
want to develop for certain types of
uses and then let them pay for the

1943
02:36:34,14 --> 02:36:38,51
improvements in order to do certain types
of developments there alone frontage and

1944
02:36:38,52 --> 02:36:42,62
that's pay for what we can pay but the
portions that are going to benefit them open

1945
02:36:42,63 --> 02:36:44,82
up the land to let them
pay for those pushing.

1946
02:36:49,65 --> 02:36:56,27
For me my. From the Heart. To
their regional bit or regional

1947
02:36:56,28 --> 02:37:03,14
trail. Boundaries and given that
you're basically under your purview

1948
02:37:03,15 --> 02:37:09,79
is the high water lines how do you see
the harbor districts role in. Promoting

1949
02:37:09,80 --> 02:37:15,63
in collaborating on this trail
issue. You know just for

1950
02:37:15,64 --> 02:37:22,46
a second if I can that is that. The high
water mark is the jurisdictional line for

1951
02:37:22,47 --> 02:37:24,61
permit we actually have trails already

1952
02:37:24,96 --> 02:37:28,71
a trail right out here goes along
the waterfront here we have

1953
02:37:28,72 --> 02:37:35,32
a trail in King Salmon King Salmon we have
a trail there at beachfront So we have

1954
02:37:35,33 --> 02:37:41,09
a plant recreational facilities with trails
already so so that was kind of what I

1955
02:37:41,10 --> 02:37:45,49
was talking about before is we've never
really actually defined the outside

1956
02:37:45,50 --> 02:37:49,77
geographic boundaries
necessarily what that is to

1957
02:37:49,78 --> 02:37:52,29
a certain extent. And able they can speak

1958
02:37:52,30 --> 02:37:57,88
a little bit more I'm sure knowledge and
I can but what I'm saying is that the

1959
02:37:57,89 --> 02:38:04,72
jurisdiction for those things isn't quite
as. You know defined as high watermark if

1960
02:38:04,73 --> 02:38:09,79
you're talking about our influence in
the properties that we operate in the

1961
02:38:09,80 --> 02:38:14,66
jurisdiction of any one of these hard
recreation or conservation they're not quite

1962
02:38:14,96 --> 02:38:20,47
as the only water that. Kicks ways just.

1963
02:38:21,91 --> 02:38:27,86
To build the mines. We're still in the
beginning of the come to talk here that.

1964
02:38:28,93 --> 02:38:33,05
Then we we absolutely can work on things
where we have the authority and that's

1965
02:38:33,06 --> 02:38:36,94
either the authority through Title A grants
or through legislation or something or

1966
02:38:36,95 --> 02:38:40,93
it's the authority that we have because we
own the property two examples of my cat

1967
02:38:40,94 --> 02:38:45,63
when the island and down in salmon we own
the property so that's easy for us to

1968
02:38:45,64 --> 02:38:49,86
develop those kind of things we're talking
about things even as close to the bay as

1969
02:38:49,87 --> 02:38:55,87
the proposed Bay Trail it's it's not in our
authority you know it's about me in our

1970
02:38:55,88 --> 02:39:01,65
high water on the other side of the railroad
or whatever. And we don't own it so we

1971
02:39:01,66 --> 02:39:05,20
get into that same thing
that. Jim was talking about

1972
02:39:05,21 --> 02:39:09,36
a while ago well you know that's all these
different agencies that are involved

1973
02:39:09,37 --> 02:39:13,81
just in this seven miles here we would be
just another one and for the time being

1974
02:39:13,82 --> 02:39:20,07
unless we listen history don't it. Or
unless all those six or seven agency said

1975
02:39:20,71 --> 02:39:25,07
OK district we're going to hand in the
keys to this trail over to you you know we

1976
02:39:25,08 --> 02:39:29,58
really are which which could happen we are
all we can remain in the support role

1977
02:39:29,59 --> 02:39:33,83
which is the A No If I could just
Taylor off your question just for

1978
02:39:33,84 --> 02:39:39,29
a second get back to Jim and it strikes
me that each cog is really kind of set up

1979
02:39:39,30 --> 02:39:44,66
to be that kind of umbrella agency for
those kind of things he represents. Well

1980
02:39:44,67 --> 02:39:47,84
represents all cities
anyway. We don't have

1981
02:39:47,85 --> 02:39:54,36
a seat on it but we could. In the county.
Exactly so it seems like it's kind of

1982
02:39:54,37 --> 02:39:57,98
naturally set up to do that you've got more
experience with him than the night Him

1983
02:39:57,99 --> 02:40:03,59
So is that you know where they'd see their
limit is that you know actually. They

1984
02:40:03,60 --> 02:40:07,78
have never acted as a
manager they just act as

1985
02:40:07,79 --> 02:40:13,49
a convener and decide or kind of you know
they have the authority though to be

1986
02:40:13,50 --> 02:40:19,16
a manager Yeah I think there are obviously
you know other sources of that around

1987
02:40:19,17 --> 02:40:23,60
the transportation Jean-Pierre that go
further you know they don't get into some of

1988
02:40:23,61 --> 02:40:27,74
the trials but I'm not that familiar with
them I'm certain some of the counties

1989
02:40:27,90 --> 02:40:31,30
might read some of those or
will there after so there's

1990
02:40:31,31 --> 02:40:35,81
a charge and they're just they're filling
that void and I think our counties for

1991
02:40:35,82 --> 02:40:40,87
the office and we're going to shut up if
we have to figure out what revenue streams

1992
02:40:41,63 --> 02:40:46,79
would be able to kind of to foster to to
our set of I think of our of our counties

1993
02:40:47,66 --> 02:40:54,10
is that I think probably as we
look for the mileage it's still

1994
02:40:54,63 --> 02:41:00,03
my feeling is that places like Green
Hill and stuff so I think the feel like

1995
02:41:00,66 --> 02:41:06,39
they're overtaxed and maybe under.
Maybe there is maybe not as much of

1996
02:41:06,40 --> 02:41:09,35
a tax base and a lot of
where places where there's

1997
02:41:09,36 --> 02:41:12,62
a lot of road to hell is they have to
maintain maybe there's movement taxes

1998
02:41:12,63 --> 02:41:17,82
contribute is good that maybe
should be. Toward that means.

1999
02:41:20,46 --> 02:41:25,49
Anyway I think that that's the the chappie
County feels challenge to meet their

2000
02:41:25,74 --> 02:41:31,05
what they've got now on the field
concerned about adding more. But this is

2001
02:41:31,06 --> 02:41:32,70
something certainly that you know there's

2002
02:41:32,71 --> 02:41:37,65
a lot of desire for the trails around the
bit of this. And it could be something

2003
02:41:37,66 --> 02:41:41,41
that they're going to grow into That's one
of the reasons we're here to be trying

2004
02:41:41,42 --> 02:41:46,69
to figure out you know because things are
changing and that our role may change let

2005
02:41:46,70 --> 02:41:47,59
me go out to look at

2006
02:41:47,60 --> 02:41:52,46
a question OK optimistic whatever it is
trying to tighten the. This question you're

2007
02:41:52,47 --> 02:41:59,21
talking. When I want to refocus on
your trail. Right now what we've got

2008
02:41:59,22 --> 02:42:05,36
behind us is water access not water trail
the harbor district can say yes we're

2009
02:42:05,37 --> 02:42:05,83
going to have

2010
02:42:05,84 --> 02:42:09,60
a water trail in the bay where kayakers
kayaked from what we are going to Arteta

2011
02:42:09,93 --> 02:42:12,24
and not get stuck in the mud
at low tide if there is

2012
02:42:12,25 --> 02:42:16,27
a slime trail system I always hear
from the harbor addition that oh it's

2013
02:42:16,28 --> 02:42:20,49
a liability you know we can't do that and
there's all these reasons why we can't

2014
02:42:20,84 --> 02:42:21,09
have

2015
02:42:21,10 --> 02:42:25,58
a trade of like everybody else who has water
trails marked with signs from point A

2016
02:42:25,59 --> 02:42:26,99
to Point B. To point C.

2017
02:42:27,35 --> 02:42:29,47
And I'd like to know from the
committee if you guys think that's

2018
02:42:29,48 --> 02:42:31,10
a good idea to actually have

2019
02:42:31,11 --> 02:42:35,04
a trail system mark not just you can get
into the bay here you can get into the bay

2020
02:42:35,05 --> 02:42:36,28
there but here's

2021
02:42:36,29 --> 02:42:42,35
a sign you can look so you don't get lost
in the mud. In the harbor just you can do

2022
02:42:42,36 --> 02:42:48,34
that can't they. We can do whatever they
want us to I don't think the plan is to be

2023
02:42:48,42 --> 02:42:54,55
in the CNS there. You know. You're
absolutely right it is an access

2024
02:42:55,08 --> 02:42:57,98
weeds and you're absolutely
right as the D.N.C.

2025
02:42:58,15 --> 02:43:03,41
With regards to the to the perceived
liability of laying out where trails are in

2026
02:43:03,42 --> 02:43:08,78
the water but that doesn't mean we won't
get there one day the point of that is to

2027
02:43:08,79 --> 02:43:14,41
get it started and then see where that goes
because we're taking on the parts that

2028
02:43:14,42 --> 02:43:20,86
are controversial which is the access
parts and. Quite honestly I do C.S.

2029
02:43:20,87 --> 02:43:25,73
Moving forward with the water trail program
eventually but right now we're glad to

2030
02:43:25,74 --> 02:43:31,80
get this far and to get then also to move
forward with the facilities so I'm I mean

2031
02:43:31,84 --> 02:43:37,70
you're right. Your criticism is well taken
but if we can exhibit where we just

2032
02:43:37,71 --> 02:43:42,18
retreat from this year will you not. As

2033
02:43:42,19 --> 02:43:47,17
a global leaders have to or we started
talking about my twenty nine or ten down the

2034
02:43:47,18 --> 02:43:49,60
list was bleed through it was like

2035
02:43:49,61 --> 02:43:56,13
a blue marker system on the water channels
in the bay and it came to meet an

2036
02:43:56,14 --> 02:44:00,53
instance of liability issues and if you
could close them Conservancy remember what

2037
02:44:00,54 --> 02:44:02,19
they said that they recently had

2038
02:44:02,20 --> 02:44:08,39
a change in the. Liability
issues. Where I could see

2039
02:44:09,12 --> 02:44:09,27
why.

2040
02:44:16,87 --> 02:44:17,72
It would be a little bit of

2041
02:44:17,73 --> 02:44:21,15
a new model and for instance if it's as
good as their government could be releasing

2042
02:44:21,25 --> 02:44:25,41
their water towers and they want to get him
to actually show making actual rafts on

2043
02:44:25,42 --> 02:44:31,25
the way down because it's require so much
input not only from other powers but in

2044
02:44:31,26 --> 02:44:34,94
how these kids who do the Eastern time are
sensitive how to test nationalist all

2045
02:44:34,95 --> 02:44:41,08
those where people kind of chance to have
and then they were also said will make

2046
02:44:41,09 --> 02:44:42,52
sense to people who have G.P.S.

2047
02:44:42,53 --> 02:44:44,29
Or different stuff from Hamas fighters in

2048
02:44:44,54 --> 02:44:48,29
a time line on the way by not very much
sense of where to go unless you have

2049
02:44:48,30 --> 02:44:52,62
channel markers to start that process
to take more than what this effort can

2050
02:44:52,63 --> 02:44:57,96
support at this time so they they also
recognize that it's true star is there

2051
02:44:57,97 --> 02:44:58,18
because

2052
02:44:58,19 --> 02:45:02,89
a great example in California is very with
your state area where you knew you were

2053
02:45:02,90 --> 02:45:09,46
so worried but all the other states North
Carolina me virgin yeah Washington Oregon

2054
02:45:09,70 --> 02:45:14,91
they've all got signed water trails in days
in salt water it's done the data is out

2055
02:45:14,92 --> 02:45:18,90
there everything is very easy to
do just California seems to have

2056
02:45:18,91 --> 02:45:25,90
a. Nutro the coastal mission
good student. Well I

2057
02:45:25,91 --> 02:45:27,48
was just going to try to bring it back

2058
02:45:27,49 --> 02:45:31,82
a little bit it was. Very
much more details like it's

2059
02:45:32,23 --> 02:45:35,08
a little area where it's

2060
02:45:35,09 --> 02:45:41,99
a porch you know public and private to
go into all those reasons but at the

2061
02:45:42,00 --> 02:45:44,88
same time like the first half
would be sort of geared towards

2062
02:45:45,24 --> 02:45:52,13
a recreational fishing and
kayaking and. Paddling. Just.

2063
02:45:54,20 --> 02:46:00,05
Bertie exactly sorry for noise for more and
more laughs really writing and so to me

2064
02:46:00,29 --> 02:46:04,05
it seems like you know when when I'm
thinking about I'm going to go on vacation

2065
02:46:04,06 --> 02:46:07,00
right now I'm going to come to pick
a destination and what constitutes

2066
02:46:07,01 --> 02:46:12,91
a destination I want to go to. You know
for here obviously it's the redwoods or

2067
02:46:12,95 --> 02:46:16,47
your burger you know you're the bird and
you're you've seen the redwood once and

2068
02:46:16,48 --> 02:46:19,75
you want to come back to different birds
just maybe that's Marine Corps the

2069
02:46:19,76 --> 02:46:24,64
paddling experience right so it's not just
people coming to the redwoods that want

2070
02:46:24,65 --> 02:46:30,90
to come here and what supports. Them making
that decision they want to come here

2071
02:46:30,94 --> 02:46:34,47
rather than something else would
stand here and attributes about it

2072
02:46:34,52 --> 02:46:38,90
a good day for example and you can take
that one step further and say ancillary

2073
02:46:38,91 --> 02:46:42,44
benefits or services provider I.E.

2074
02:46:42,45 --> 02:46:46,27
Other types of businesses hope provide
that because it makes their experience

2075
02:46:46,28 --> 02:46:51,62
better so if you are you know coming to
humble Bay to fish you're not going to be

2076
02:46:51,63 --> 02:46:55,25
able to go recreational fishing if there
isn't recreational sport fish people to

2077
02:46:55,26 --> 02:47:00,26
take you there if you were going to launch
your boat. You know say for example

2078
02:47:00,30 --> 02:47:06,21
fields landing because that's the closest
boat ramp sort of to to the bay and you

2079
02:47:06,22 --> 02:47:09,65
go down there well there's not much down
there other than the boat ramp the parking

2080
02:47:09,66 --> 02:47:10,20
lot there's not

2081
02:47:10,21 --> 02:47:14,63
a shop where you could you know gear up
or buy that extra this or that she needed

2082
02:47:14,76 --> 02:47:20,55
for example so I think one of the. You
know I. I was trying to brainstorm some to

2083
02:47:20,56 --> 02:47:25,21
perhaps ideas oh sitting here I didn't
really come up with very many other than the

2084
02:47:25,22 --> 02:47:29,92
fact that you know perhaps this is very
small potatoes but perhaps there could be

2085
02:47:29,93 --> 02:47:34,13
an actual structure on the Harvester
property somewhere that could be you know at

2086
02:47:34,14 --> 02:47:34,65
least on

2087
02:47:34,66 --> 02:47:39,13
a daily basis almost you know where the
shop might and where you could set up for

2088
02:47:39,28 --> 02:47:43,99
a tear down store some votes there were
some sort of mechanism that would support

2089
02:47:44,42 --> 02:47:48,79
a business is whether it was the burgers
in the car after the road Regional Sports

2090
02:47:48,80 --> 02:47:50,41
fishers there feel like that's going to be

2091
02:47:50,42 --> 02:47:56,75
a big you know fishing weekend for whatever
reason then they can just quickly lease

2092
02:47:56,76 --> 02:48:03,26
this facility set up shop you know provide
some ancillary services beyond their

2093
02:48:03,27 --> 02:48:07,83
core competency of their business and
then after that we can was over you know

2094
02:48:08,05 --> 02:48:12,18
pulled it up it's not a lot.
You know maybe designing

2095
02:48:12,19 --> 02:48:17,47
a little mean it's passion and therefore
that's one mechanism with absolutely the

2096
02:48:17,48 --> 02:48:23,36
scope of this property and you know it's
kind of big deal out here now but you kind

2097
02:48:23,37 --> 02:48:29,67
of get the idea but as soon as she's you
know that's It was interesting that. You

2098
02:48:29,68 --> 02:48:33,35
know. Doing Better is
in hospital and there's

2099
02:48:33,36 --> 02:48:36,00
a crossover and I think
there's hope there's

2100
02:48:36,01 --> 02:48:42,48
a lot of. Us are talking about tourists
the more you diversify and have those

2101
02:48:42,52 --> 02:48:45,89
additional things and reasons and they're
all well promoted and they're all well

2102
02:48:45,90 --> 02:48:50,92
founded and that we develop the infrastructure
associated with them that's I think

2103
02:48:50,93 --> 02:48:51,22
that's

2104
02:48:51,23 --> 02:48:57,64
a path to plus business that's fairly
solid. And I thought you know Larry brought

2105
02:48:57,65 --> 02:49:03,29
up you know the infrastructure right next
to the. Tourist space businesses is often

2106
02:49:03,45 --> 02:49:07,49
optimal Yeah yeah I just
wanted to kind of wrap in

2107
02:49:07,50 --> 02:49:12,33
a way because I. Thought that's happened
here we didn't get off in trails for

2108
02:49:12,34 --> 02:49:17,27
a long time but everything in this discussion
tonight was all tied together I mean

2109
02:49:17,28 --> 02:49:21,53
it certainly was by your intent and. The
way you agenda is what is going to happen

2110
02:49:21,54 --> 02:49:25,94
to get the speakers but even more so and
this is happening every single one of

2111
02:49:25,95 --> 02:49:30,35
these meetings really see the relationship
between everybody that sits on the panel

2112
02:49:31,25 --> 02:49:36,75
in ways that maybe not all of them totally
appreciated or anyone has totally

2113
02:49:36,76 --> 02:49:42,11
capitalized on and perhaps that comes
back to Dave's earlier comment what the

2114
02:49:42,12 --> 02:49:47,36
harbor district sees in all of this
especially the trails there were all talking

2115
02:49:47,37 --> 02:49:51,46
about what happens around the Bay I mean
it is your jurisdiction doesn't matter if

2116
02:49:51,47 --> 02:49:55,45
it's tourism or it's we're being healthier
because we're getting people to be

2117
02:49:55,46 --> 02:50:00,13
active it's more about the fact we're turning
our attention to what is the baby who

2118
02:50:00,14 --> 02:50:04,13
said this and it's come up other times in
other forums for the harbor district but

2119
02:50:04,14 --> 02:50:08,34
really it is a mindset
that has changed we're

2120
02:50:08,38 --> 02:50:12,28
a lot more of our community not just the
tourist but the people that live here work

2121
02:50:12,29 --> 02:50:16,73
here and have businesses or recreate here
are looking at the business something

2122
02:50:16,74 --> 02:50:19,41
more than it was before
and I think so that's

2123
02:50:19,42 --> 02:50:24,78
a leadership role that the harbor district
had really taken capitalize on of being

2124
02:50:25,12 --> 02:50:30,05
a future asset beyond what they have
been traditionally there are actually

2125
02:50:30,06 --> 02:50:34,55
a cheerleader for what is all these
things put together but I think of course

2126
02:50:34,63 --> 02:50:37,84
things like Apple fest where we
join with the voters and they have

2127
02:50:37,85 --> 02:50:40,02
a very let people live off
the bridge and there's

2128
02:50:40,03 --> 02:50:43,98
a thousand great the colored folks floating
out there they're going I want to do

2129
02:50:43,99 --> 02:50:49,31
that yes so we are very kind of promoting
it to ourselves and read more and I think

2130
02:50:49,32 --> 02:50:50,99
that the community more
and more it's a den

2131
02:50:51,00 --> 02:50:55,74
a find it to pay I mean I remember before
I just you know it's just like smells

2132
02:50:55,75 --> 02:51:01,70
like so far. I don't think when I first
came out OK I mean it just and then I'm

2133
02:51:01,71 --> 02:51:03,24
much more struck with its beauty and

2134
02:51:03,75 --> 02:51:07,62
a kitchen to have it that I've got all kinds
of relationships and really and it is

2135
02:51:07,63 --> 02:51:13,50
true because you hear people just like.
You are is realizing you know someone who

2136
02:51:13,73 --> 02:51:19,02
lives on the bay pretty much what he does
and how he how he works but his own.

2137
02:51:19,42 --> 02:51:24,12
Broader vision of all these other things
to me was remarkable because you see him

2138
02:51:24,13 --> 02:51:28,87
as being pretty hard working guy who is out
there doing the fighting but not having

2139
02:51:28,88 --> 02:51:30,10
It's a procedure for

2140
02:51:30,11 --> 02:51:35,03
a lot of the stuff we're talking about
tonight and he was the other purpose for

2141
02:51:35,36 --> 02:51:39,65
what RB is iconic I mean it's one of the
cleanest on the West Coast it as a it's

2142
02:51:39,66 --> 02:51:41,81
a huge food resources so it's got

2143
02:51:41,82 --> 02:51:47,46
a habitat for wildlife and fish and so it's
kind of been an emotive reversed on my

2144
02:51:47,47 --> 02:51:48,53
private world class for

2145
02:51:48,54 --> 02:51:53,17
a number of people you know and then
we never go wrong you know. We can see

2146
02:51:53,18 --> 02:51:57,13
a world class burning in world class
over kayaking or whatever over the other

2147
02:51:57,14 --> 02:52:00,62
issues but it's world class you
know it's a world class player for

2148
02:52:00,63 --> 02:52:04,50
a lot of. Very tough.

2149
02:52:08,02 --> 02:52:12,94
For. Her. There's

2150
02:52:12,95 --> 02:52:18,67
a lot of sort of industrial under US
person in particular in the snow smokin

2151
02:52:18,68 --> 02:52:22,64
insulin that eventually when that gets
built back up you know what but the

2152
02:52:22,65 --> 02:52:26,87
conflicts between you know dust road
development recreational country your service

2153
02:52:26,88 --> 02:52:30,35
and what kind of uses Do we want to see
it on turn you know as we're developing

2154
02:52:30,36 --> 02:52:35,78
these and you know this conflicts and the
inherent You know there's conflicts when

2155
02:52:35,79 --> 02:52:38,91
you get to some of these kinds of uses
and that you know the more recreational

2156
02:52:38,92 --> 02:52:41,42
activities the more pressure there's going
to be oh you don't want to develop some

2157
02:52:41,43 --> 02:52:45,38
of these pieces you know yet another zone
that they've historically been used these

2158
02:52:45,39 --> 02:52:49,04
are some I don't want to get into this but
I mean this is something that I think I

2159
02:52:49,14 --> 02:52:53,15
have your address at some point today
because what we're neglecting here as we

2160
02:52:53,16 --> 02:52:57,47
usually do we are sticking kind of what are
we to do for accommodation and towards

2161
02:52:57,48 --> 02:53:00,38
the end of our meeting
schedule I am putting it into

2162
02:53:00,39 --> 02:53:06,56
a kind of over time here but I work with
my can talk to some of the other committee

2163
02:53:06,57 --> 02:53:12,40
members and one of the things we're
looking at is. What about having

2164
02:53:12,41 --> 02:53:18,14
a geographically faced section or our off
or on kind of like what you're talking

2165
02:53:18,15 --> 02:53:24,13
about where we start to look at the some
openness low versus development on the ADD

2166
02:53:24,14 --> 02:53:28,52
TO feels landing side because what's
interesting is that as we approach things like

2167
02:53:28,52 --> 02:53:35,28
. Oh the museum. The timber Heritage Museum
Some people come up to me I think oh

2168
02:53:35,81 --> 02:53:40,29
that's should be in Eureka it should be
right next to Old Town So in other words

2169
02:53:40,30 --> 02:53:45,05
people have pretty strong opinions about
where these things should go together and

2170
02:53:45,06 --> 02:53:50,14
I was just wondering whether or not I'm
going to send out. This tentative ending

2171
02:53:50,15 --> 02:53:54,06
schedule and it would have that one meeting
that would be geographically specific

2172
02:53:54,07 --> 02:53:58,42
and that is awesome openings for Eureka
waterfront fields landing King Salmon

2173
02:53:58,67 --> 02:54:04,84
considering development geographically
and then I had suggested that and I'm

2174
02:54:04,85 --> 02:54:09,86
meeting so that will be this reason aqua
culture is next restoration of humble.

2175
02:54:10,95 --> 02:54:15,76
Would be our sixth in our job or then we
would have one that would be geographic

2176
02:54:15,77 --> 02:54:19,48
specific and we'd move to the middle of
November the eighteenth and then have

2177
02:54:19,49 --> 02:54:25,02
a synthesis would have sit around and say
what did we find and then it would be our

2178
02:54:25,03 --> 02:54:28,94
responsibility to put that in writing and
then we would bring that back to the

2179
02:54:28,95 --> 02:54:34,84
committee in the last wednesday of January
two thousand and ten and that would be

2180
02:54:34,85 --> 02:54:39,62
our final report that we would then present
back to the Harvester to our fellow

2181
02:54:39,63 --> 02:54:45,04
commissioners and others could use it as
they wish that's just you know it seems to

2182
02:54:45,05 --> 02:54:50,25
me that rear each of these is so gent Pat
we're really not doing the synthesis

2183
02:54:50,26 --> 02:54:54,05
we're not doing the synergy we're not
doing the how does it how does it often

2184
02:54:54,06 --> 02:54:55,13
together so I think we need

2185
02:54:55,14 --> 02:54:58,97
a couple more meetings I'll submit this
to you for your consideration as an

2186
02:54:58,98 --> 02:55:04,92
attached file an email and next time we'll
will have some quality time to discuss

2187
02:55:04,93 --> 02:55:10,55
this as I think it's important. These
meetings are so much that they know that so

2188
02:55:10,56 --> 02:55:13,38
we always. Well you know
I'm up here by where

2189
02:55:13,39 --> 02:55:17,85
a little planning on the next agenda and
the other thing to call for your pension.

2190
02:55:19,98 --> 02:55:21,64
Thanks so much thank you.

2191
02:55:31,19 --> 02:55:34,85
I know. That.